PetitFrereArmada
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Those are some great pics.
Show us your Toyota 4runner, tacoma or truck.
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Box Rocket
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this is how I set them up. New upper crossmember in about the same location as the rear leaning factory shock mount. Shocks are parallel but tilted to the rear. This gives decent lateral stability but the angle of the shock helps them not bottom out through the entire range of movement of the springs.
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Fully stuffed
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sfsmedic
Adventurer
Because there is more leverage with them placed in bound correct. How would you know how stiff you'd need to go? Trial and error?
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toyotech
Expedition Leader
Yes trail and error unless you find someone that has done it. I can ask someone that has done it. He said with the correct shocks it worked great
If it's just a trail rig than it doesn't really matter much.
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Blackdawg
Dr. Frankenstein
i did a setup like that to a buddy's truck. Set them up so they angled a tad though and mounting locations are different. He loves it.
IMG_7764.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
IMG_7764.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
toyotech
Expedition Leader
i did a setup like that to a buddy's truck. Set them up so they angled a tad though and mounting locations are different. He loves it.
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That's almost how everyone else does it. The other one you can see the shock is mounted almost right next to the differential housing. The axle doesn't move up and down much near the middle that's why the rear drive shaft doesn't need much slip to handle extreme flex. At the same time shocks are not as effective being that close to the center. Unless you right correct shocks to handle it. At low speeds I'm sure any shock will do bit for dd. The shock needs to be able to control the spring or else your bouncing around lol
Box Rocket
Well-known member
I have no stability issues with them mounted further inboard. The ride is great and this not just a trail rig. I put 300+ miles on this truck a week as a daily driver. Also not running a front sway bar. Truck still feels nice and solid. It makes no sense that a stiffer shock is needed with them mounted further inboard. If it was a single shock mounted dead center on the axle, then maybe. It's not a race car doing high speed cornering. The amount of travel the shock has has very little to do with the dampening provided. On the road and fire roads you are not worried about lots of axle movement and don't need tons of travel out of the shock and the dampening is not different than if they were in the factory location. A shock mounted further outboard provides stability benefits when cornering and I probably have a slight loss there but it's not anything I have even noticed and I've been known to rally the truck pretty hard. The only time you're worried about needing lots of travel from the shock is typically in the rocks or where lots of articulation is needed. Those conditions usually are at very slow speeds where the quick dampening isn't a factor. You guys are making this way more complicated than it needs to be and over thinking it.
OBX Seafari
Outdoorsman
Bye bye horrible side steps
toyotech
Expedition Leader
That's good it worked out for you. I haven't done it and it's something i wanna do because I want the full travel of my springs but hard to mount a longer shock (I have limited space for placement) without cutting into the bed (cab for my runner). Seen as buddy of mine did it and worked for him too but he said the guy he worked for knew what shocks to run. Again without having done it, just looking at where its mounted the shock doesn't have much leverage as sfsmedic said. Not saying your doing it wrong or it's only for a trail rig. I just thought it would be better to make sure the shock can handle that location if you or anyway is to DD. I guess even than it's not that important if you know your rig and drive it accordingly. I know I drive way to fast around corners and S roads in my runner with no sway bars but it must be all those years of driving lowered sports cars and I can't break that habit now that I'm all about 4x4 lol. Anyways good to know it worked for you and that any shock would work
I bet those 3/4 and 1ton trucks have soft springs as well.
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Box Rocket
Well-known member
You can do it without needing longer shocks. I didn't change the shocks I had. In the stock locations they were too short, but by changing the mounting locations and angle of the mounting I am able to run the same shocks.
toyotech
Expedition Leader
Guess I said it wrong. I want to do the same mounting locating so I don't have to run a longer shock. It's possible because the axle pivots in the middle but you already know that
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