slow, budget built '89 toyota pickup expedition rig

xlcaferacer

Adventurer
Your thread makes me want a Toyota Pickup
Funny; we bought the kid a '96 XJ and I really like the thing and want to build it for a little more of a "mall crawler" status for him as that's all he wants to do with it. It is fun and simple to work on. I already put on a "budget boost" and I want more. It's still so little. This is one of the few non-Toyota rigs that I really want to build.
 

xlcaferacer

Adventurer
It has been a bit since I posted but due to lots of work; 1st, 2nd, and 3rd jobs, I have been very busy. I had a chance to get out earlier this summer and run a mild trail in the San Juan mtns. of Colorado (Cinnamon Pass). I finally got out again today in my own backyard (the Elk Mountains) outside of Crested Butte, Colorado. Again; due to time constraints, I just went on a scenic trip which was done mostly in 2wheel drive. However, it was awesome to get back out and see the great outdoors. Here is a pic about 45 minutes from my house: 002.jpg
 

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xlcaferacer

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As an update to my last post; I have had a chance to run my truck on a few more trails and I am very happy with how it works. I still wish I would have saved for better shocks. I just spent the weekend putting a full Old Man Emu setup on my wife's '97 4runner and it rides like a truck should: firm but not harsh, and without the pogo effect that my truck can have at times on the road. I have always pieced together my trucks with a budget in mind. I have not skimped on quality and have always used parts that I trust, but after riding in the 4runner with the new OME I feel that that saving a little longer and spending extra $$ on upgraded, quality shocks would have been worth it. Anyway, here is a brief video of me running the rocky, shelf section of the Devil's Punchbowl outside of Crested Butte, Colorado. As you can see, the truck works well. This is not an extreme trail by any means, but this is the hard section of the trail which is rated as difficult do to the tight shelf road with a big drop off on the drivers side. These are the kind of trails that I get out on and I still feel that I have built a truck very capable of taking me where I want to go and camping comfortably in a beautiful place when I get there. Thanks for looking.
 

djtc

Adventurer
Love the truck! Ive got the same extended cab but powered by a vw tdi with the same 33x10.5 km2's. How do you like the ome leafs?do they flex well enough ? Im debating between those or the chevy 63's.

One last thing, how do you like the lunch box locker in the pickup ?
I had an aussie locker in my 3 rd gen 4runner and loved it . However I heard its a little different in a pickup with no weight in the rear .
 
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xlcaferacer

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I love the OME springs. They flex well and carry the weight of my camper and gear just fine. I feel that OME is a great bang for the buck. I have had several different rear springs (downey, northwest offroad, stock with add a leaf) on past Toyota trucks and I love the price, performance, and load carrying ability of the OME's. I would skip the 63's unless you are building a crawler, as the front end of our trucks don't flex much anyway. With a load they will probably sag and the install is much more intensive. The OME's are a great spring for an all around truck and are very budget friendly. I hope to go with a long travel kit for the front in the future and will probably just add longer shackles to the rear to compensate for the height difference; this is how happy I am with them. As for the locker; I don't have a lunch box locker. Mine is the full case Detroit locker. I love it. It does have some quirks as a locker will have; but, a fulltime locker in a longer wheelbase truck like ours is not that bad to live with in a daily driver if you just let off the gas a bit going around corners. In the winter it will definitely want to push you through a corner on the ice but if you know that is how it will act and you ease through the corner, everything is o.k. I worried about it initially but once I learned to live with it and how it worked I wouldn't trade it. Would I like a selectable locker? Sure. But; if I had to do it again, would I spend the extra money? Nope! I don't know if the lunch box lockers are as predictable but I know how my full case Detroit locker works and I am completely happy with it in a daily driver.
 

xlcaferacer

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It has been a bit since my last post. I did manage to get out on the trail a few more times before summer ended. The most fun trip was following my buddy in his built Wrangler (35's, 4:1 transfer case, dual ARB's) over Reno Divide and Taylor Pass to Aspen. We took in a Reverend Horton Heat concert and then came back home via Pearl Pass the next day. Great trails, great music, and spectacular scenery added up to one last good wheeling trip for the year. I did rip open a sidewall on one of my tires on Taylor Pass. 15 plugs later it held air but not sure if it would when mounted on the truck. Here's a pic of the gash:
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The good news is that I found a spare before coming home. There are some guys in Snowmass that desert race Toyotas and call themselves Fire Guys Racing. They hooked me up with a race worn BFG Baja MT for a reasonable price and mounted it for me and I was back on the trail. Super cool of them.
A pic from the top of Taylor pass:
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I haven't done much to the truck lately. My wife started talking about getting a new car and since I don't want a car payment I decided to put my truck money into her 4Runner. She got a new Old Man Emu Suspension, Cooper AT3 tires, and a new stereo complete with subwoofer. She now has her "New Car".
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However this winter my truck will be "off the road" as opposed to "offroad". My folks just bought a new Subaru and gave me their 1997 Outback that has 220,000 miles on it. Dad said the dealer wouldn't really give him much for it and that it needs a few things. I have fixed a few things and I now have this to drive while my truck gets parked in the garage while I deal with some of its issues this winter:
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So; finally, a truck update and things to be fixed this winter. I put a woodstove in my house last winter and the truck has been serving duty as a wood hauler as well now. As much as I hated to do it I sold the Wildernest. It was too much of a pain to take on and off when I needed to haul wood, and I didn't really have a place to keep it when it was off. It was sad to see it go but I did make a couple c-notes over what I had into it. I'm thinking about a Softopper top as a replacement. It will still give me a dry (albeit, less comfy) place to sleep and I can just fold it out of the way when I need to haul anything. And now that I don't have the weight of the 'Nest I will probably pull off the extra leaf in my rear springs for a better ride.
I also have a few major things that need done. The used rear end that I put in had enough backlash to eat up my transmission. It no longer stays in first or third gear. So first order of business will be to pull the rear third member and have the backlash set up right. Next is a new transmission. I have found rebuilts in the $1,200-1,600 range. But I have also found them used with a transfer case in the $300-400 range. Guess which route I will be going. You got it: used, but with a slight twist: I hope to take the extra cash saved and have the transfer case rebuilt by Marlin Crawler with the addition of his 4.7 lowrange kit. I already have a new clutch and flywheel setting on the shelf in the garage so I am already ahead of the game on this project. Since the tranny will be coming out I may as well put it back in with a Budbuilt transfer case crossmember and skid plate combo. Of course the Marlin and Budbuilt parts are on the wish list side of things.
She also needs a new exhaust. Do I just replace the muffler and tail pipe or go with a header and all new exhaust behind it? I have a few other things on the "to do" list as well. Only time and money will tell what exactly gets done but, I will try and take pics and update as Ruby gets her new parts over the winter. Here she is as she goes into hibernation for the winter:
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djtc

Adventurer
The softopper is great! Have one on my pickup . I camped in it a few weekends ago with the mesh backing and it was great! Wish I could have snatched that wildernest but im a little far from you!
 

xlcaferacer

Adventurer
Just thought I'd give an update on Ruby. I haven't done any of the major things on my winter list yet but I have done a few small improvements so I thought I would give an update. First off; I spent more truck money on other vehicles in the family. The kid's Cherokee has had a Death Wobble since I put a "budget boost" lift on it. So, I decided that since he was taking it to college next year I would dump some $$ into it. It got a new Zone Offroad 3" lift and all new steering parts. $800 later the wobble is gone and it rides better. It still needs a few things that will cut into Ruby's budget but those things can wait until right before he goes to school.

I have been looking for someone local that I trust to rebuild my rear-end and I think I may have finally found him. Now if it would only snow here in my little ski town so I could earn a little overtime money plowing the roads I could make some serious progress on upgrading my truck. Oh yeah, I changed jobs 3 months ago. After being a ski lift mechanic for the last 12 years I took a job with the town of Mt. Crested Butte. Change is good for the soul!

The couple things that I have managed to do were somewhat on the wish list. The first thing I have done was to get rid of the extra leaf in my rear suspension. The problem was that my u-bolts were twisting pretty bad when I went to take them off so I ordered a Trail-Gear U-bolt flip kit. I ended up cutting off the old u-bolts. This netted me about 1-2" (I didn't measure) of extra clearance under the axle tubes. It also moved the shock up about 2-3" (again, a guess-tament). This is good because I figured out in the garage that the shocks were limiting rear suspension travel.
Before:
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After:
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The shock will probably still be a limiting factor in the rear suspension but it will now be a little better and without the extra leaf it sure does ride better.
The next change was on the wish list. I bought a Budbuilt transfer case crossmember and skid plate. Talk about adding some BEEF to the undercarriage! It will be a while until I can test out this mod but I am definitely not going to be worried about transfer case protection in the future. An added bonus is that I gained about 2" of clearance under the middle of my truck.

Old vs. New:
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So pretty I hated to paint it:
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Before:
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After:
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Old skids vs. New. Now that's BEEF!:
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These are mods that I had planned for the future but you know how it goes. Plans change and I needed to work on the truck and with limited funds I chose some luxuries before tackling the big stuff. Now I am saving for the stuff that needs to be done. I still have at least 4-5 months until the trails open in my area anyway. Until then I know that I have now gained 2" of clearance under my axle tubes and mid section without adding any lift. "Keep it low and keep it stable" is my goal for this truck. I think I have taken steps in this direction and added some armor for piece of mind as a bonus.
 

djtc

Adventurer
I did notice a bit more travel with re locating the shocks where you did when I completed the flip kit.

I noticed earlier that you were talking about rebuilding your t case with 4.7s. Im selling my truck and I had a set of trail gear 4.7s indtalled in a spare case but never used. Pm me if you re interested, im sure with the weak canadian dollar they would be cheap.
 

I-Like-MTN

New member
I am new to this forum so I'm getting acquainted. I just wanted to say that I've really enjoyed reading through your build! Your truck looks like the perfect mix of weekend fun and week day practicality. Keep up the good work.
 

Austo

Observer
How's that transfer case skid plate been working out for you? I need to get something better than stock....
 

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