FourByLand
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Are you going to put a snorkel on your dirt bike?
Snorkel Wars
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ntsqd
Heretic Car Camper
Don't forget that the vehicle above is diesel powered. It doesn't need a spark to make things happen in the cylinders. That is a critical difference as to whether you need to waterproof the under-hood electrical or not.
I personally don't want one because I don't need one. Water crossings that deep in the desert are flowing way, way too fast to even consider crossing. I happen to think they look kind of silly, but that's entirely subjective. More power to those who do need or want one.
Now what Teri-Ann has makes the most sense to me......
I personally don't want one because I don't need one. Water crossings that deep in the desert are flowing way, way too fast to even consider crossing. I happen to think they look kind of silly, but that's entirely subjective. More power to those who do need or want one.
Now what Teri-Ann has makes the most sense to me......
AndrewClarke
Adventurer
ntsqd said:
No, I'm sorry but that's not subjective. Chicks dig snorkels
- Andrew.
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ntsqd said:
ntsqd... you would be amazed how deep your stock FJ60's ignition system can go. O-ring sealed and vented distributor (vented to air cleaner) and the ignitor systems are pretty bulletproof themselves. They set them up pretty tight from the factory
FourByLand said:
You may laugh at the idea, but back in 1973 I ran the Daniel Boone Hare and Hound (a 50 mile off-road motorcycle race) with my 1971 Hodaka. It was not what you would call waterproof, and had an exposed K&N-style air filter directly on the carb under the seat. No side guards, moulding, or any of the happy stuff new bikes now come with.
It rained for two days prior to the race, and one hour prior to the start, the officials warned us that there was "water on the course." This was a euphemism as several miles of the course were right up a creek bed, and 2 miles of the creek course had to be cut that morning due to excessively deep water. What was left ran from one to 4 feet deep.
I grabbed a roll of duct tape and made a tent around the carb, filter and seat so that air got the filter only from the rear up under the seat. I finished 10th place out of 450 starters, and had no water issues.
Call it what you want but the ducting I created with tape was a snorkel. They work.
FourByLand
Expedition Leader
Who said I was laughing or don't believe they are a good defense?
I am also glad you did well on in the race and had no water issues.
I am also glad you did well on in the race and had no water issues.
FourByLand
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R_Lefebvre said:
This makes no sense to me first you said you haven't been in a bow-wave situation with a truck but you have on your enduro and then you tell about how you plunged with no opportunity for a bow-wave...
Pad
Adventurer
I'm sure its been stated already but gas engins dont like being submerged, you can make some mods to help like link a horn to your dist., a blast of air before you hit water can create a possitive pressure situation. Or what about the bottom of a nobby plastic pop bottle siliconed to your dist. cap w/wires coming through the nobs(also siliconed)?
I wonder about temp getting high enough to melt it though?
I have a snorkle on my truck (came with it), not 100% sold on it yet, pulled the air filter and had 2-handfulls of crap in the housing. Mostly sticks, bugs, & leaves, I plan to add some screen to it before I go into the bush again. I wonder about driving in the rain too, should I flip the top around to face backwards?
I also have a prefilter top for it, but mines not as slick as Terrianns, mine is more like 12" dia HUGE, hers looks like the size of a cd 50 pack case (hmmm now I'm thinking) does that take a mesh round filter in it like a shopvac?(thought #2).
Anyways if the bow-wave situation goes wrong or you loose traction and dont shut your motor down before the water levels comes back up I suppose it would help, but you can keep a nice little bubble of air in the engine bay if everything goes your way.
As for the regular people, its the first thing they notice! Anoying mostly, not do you have on board air, or lockers, or what size tires/ gears ect. its always ewww:yikes:a snorkle!
I wonder about temp getting high enough to melt it though?
I have a snorkle on my truck (came with it), not 100% sold on it yet, pulled the air filter and had 2-handfulls of crap in the housing. Mostly sticks, bugs, & leaves, I plan to add some screen to it before I go into the bush again. I wonder about driving in the rain too, should I flip the top around to face backwards?
I also have a prefilter top for it, but mines not as slick as Terrianns, mine is more like 12" dia HUGE, hers looks like the size of a cd 50 pack case (hmmm now I'm thinking) does that take a mesh round filter in it like a shopvac?(thought #2).
Anyways if the bow-wave situation goes wrong or you loose traction and dont shut your motor down before the water levels comes back up I suppose it would help, but you can keep a nice little bubble of air in the engine bay if everything goes your way.
As for the regular people, its the first thing they notice! Anoying mostly, not do you have on board air, or lockers, or what size tires/ gears ect. its always ewww:yikes:a snorkle!
I have had my gas V-8 in 4 feet of water so many times I have lost track, and the only times I have had trouble was with a wet air filter element under the hood when the snorkel was disconnected. No electrical or electronic issues, and minimal water proofing on the distributor. I think gas motors have gotten a bad reputation that they don't deserve, especially now that almost no one is using points any more.
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TeriAnn said:
In the case of that generation 4Runner/Tacoma, 4-6" deeper or a small hole on the front PS and he could have ingested water. The stock pickup is just slightly above the front bumper in the fender. So agreed, wouldn't need it as the photo is taken... but take it from someone that has lost a motor do to water, the $300 snorkel is cheaper
UK4X4
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Yep planning on a bow wave is fine....inside depth reaches the plugs and your history.....
where the snorkel helps...is for the unseen, unplanned dunkings..as well as the anti dust properties....which on a sandy trail you can easily aquire the equivalent of 6 months dirt in 6 hrs with a standard intake
ie pooddling along on a trail in your TJ, in 3" of water, suddenly the front RHS drops into a hole.....you have water above the window.....the intake is in the front RHS of the hood...
It floods, engine dies...
no planning, no bow wave...just a slip of the track, into the ditch at the side of the road, and your going home on a tow truck.
The snorkel allows the engine to breathe better in dusty conditions, and provides insurance against damaging that important lump of reciprocating steel under the hood, against unforceen dunkings.
where the snorkel helps...is for the unseen, unplanned dunkings..as well as the anti dust properties....which on a sandy trail you can easily aquire the equivalent of 6 months dirt in 6 hrs with a standard intake
ie pooddling along on a trail in your TJ, in 3" of water, suddenly the front RHS drops into a hole.....you have water above the window.....the intake is in the front RHS of the hood...
It floods, engine dies...
no planning, no bow wave...just a slip of the track, into the ditch at the side of the road, and your going home on a tow truck.
The snorkel allows the engine to breathe better in dusty conditions, and provides insurance against damaging that important lump of reciprocating steel under the hood, against unforceen dunkings.
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TeriAnn said:
Sadly the scoops are completely non functional. The OE intake is right behind the passenger side headlight. So if your headlights are getting wet, so is your air filter