overlander
Expedition Leader
And the war continues! Food for thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mysp9FeOfd8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mysp9FeOfd8&feature=related
Snorkel Wars
- Thread starter articulate
- Start date
Purple People Eater
Explorer
articulate said:We've come so far, haven't we? :snorkel: And now we go farther.
Safari has produced a unit for the late model Frontier. :smileeek:
Bump.
Mark, tell me you're gonna do it. For someone who's such a strong advocate for the snorkel, and seeing how it's just about the only thing missing from your Frontier... c'mon. Dooooo iiiiiitttttt.
I'm buying my Jeep some goodies for my birthday, and a snorkel may be on the list. We'll see.
I Leak Oil
Expedition Leader
Can't say that I've actually "needed" my snorkle but I'd rather not find out the hard way that I should have had one. I don't care for most "bolt on" items so I built my own for my series rover. Modified the original oil bath filter and used a cap for a Ford tractor. Some 2 1/2" exhaust pipe for the rest.
Jason T.
Jason T.
JackW
Explorer
I built one out of 3" diameter aluminum tubing and capped it off with a Centri precleaner. A friend of mine hydrolocked his Range Rover when his right front wheel went in a hole in a creek crossing in North Georgia. Mine's a diesel so I don't have to worry about the electronics. Plus it looks cool and gives you the opportunity for conversations like this:
A lady getting out of her car next to my Rover in a parking lot really asked these questions:
Lady - pointing at the snorkel: "What's that thing?"
Me - "It's a snorkel."
Lady - "But what is it for?"
Me - "It allows the truck to run underwater."
Lady, with a puzzled look on her face - "Does that happen often?"
A lady getting out of her car next to my Rover in a parking lot really asked these questions:
Lady - pointing at the snorkel: "What's that thing?"
Me - "It's a snorkel."
Lady - "But what is it for?"
Me - "It allows the truck to run underwater."
Lady, with a puzzled look on her face - "Does that happen often?"
I Leak Oil
Expedition Leader
Tim,SOAZ said:
I got mine through a NAPA that sells alot of parts for farm tractors. It's for a Ford but I don't remember what model. It's great for my 4 cylinder rover engine but a little small for anything bigger. A company by the name of Mantec makes snorkle kits for the V8 rovers and has a larger version of what I bought. Check around at some of the rover parts suppliers, they may be able to help you get one.
Make your own system, it's cheaper, better and unique. Most of all, make sure it's functional, NO POSERS!:REExeSwimmingHL:
Jason T.
Superu
Explorer
Farkle! I love it!
Although no one makes a snorkel for my Outback, Safari was nice enough to work with me to find the closest fit.
Do I need it? Probably not. Does it provide a nice high location for cold air intake, contribute to the start of many amiable conversations, and allow me to cross a few streams in VT and CA that I otherwise might have chosen to drive the long way around? Abso-freakin-lutley!
As anyone can tell, my little Superu is a lesson in functional overkill. It does everything I ask of it and I smile every time I walk up to it! Isn't that what it's all about? :smiley_drive:
And once that lift kit gets here from AU..... whoooaaaa baby!
The Superu
Although no one makes a snorkel for my Outback, Safari was nice enough to work with me to find the closest fit.
Do I need it? Probably not. Does it provide a nice high location for cold air intake, contribute to the start of many amiable conversations, and allow me to cross a few streams in VT and CA that I otherwise might have chosen to drive the long way around? Abso-freakin-lutley!
As anyone can tell, my little Superu is a lesson in functional overkill. It does everything I ask of it and I smile every time I walk up to it! Isn't that what it's all about? :smiley_drive:
And once that lift kit gets here from AU..... whoooaaaa baby!
The Superu
FourByLand
Expedition Leader
Very nice!!!
Are you planning on a mild all terrain tire???
Are you planning on a mild all terrain tire???
Superu
Explorer
Thanks
I'm running Yokohama Geloandar AT/S's all around.
They've been excellent on deeply rutted beach sand trails, in local mud and throughout this winter's snow. I have a 1" suspension lift with King Springs, but once the 2: body lift arrives, I may be able to squeeze a slightly taller tire in there. :snorkel:
I'm running Yokohama Geloandar AT/S's all around.
They've been excellent on deeply rutted beach sand trails, in local mud and throughout this winter's snow. I have a 1" suspension lift with King Springs, but once the 2: body lift arrives, I may be able to squeeze a slightly taller tire in there. :snorkel:
SOAZ
Tim and Kelsey get lost..
Jason T. said:
Good call. I'll check around at some tractor suppliers and the rover places. thanks!
I really want it to be functional so I don't have to get lucky next time I end up doing this.
AndrewClarke
Adventurer
I haven't read all the replies here, but I was asked elsewhere on the board to share my last weekend's experience here. I have a 200tdi Land Rover 110 and was at the Ottawa Valley Birthday Party in Ontario, Canada. I usually drive pretty carefully through water, and was cruising through some water as the second vehicle in a convoy, driving relatively slowly and carefully. However, I hadn't been off-roading in a while (new baby) and had more angst in me to "have fun" than was safe.
The guy in front of me stopped to take some photos (see below) and so I decided to gun it for the camera. Well, that's what I did, and next thing I knew I'd stalled my engine. To make an ongoing story shorter, I now only have compression in two of my cylinders.
With a heavy heart, I called my wife later in the day and explained what happened. The FIRST thing she said to me was, "Well, if you'd had a snorkel this wouldn't have happened." I can't argue with that. She then very graciously told me that these things happen and if I never broke my truck it just meant that I wasn't wheeling hard enough. While I can't 100% agree with that sentiment, I appreciated the support (a LOT). I really love my wife.
I've owned this truck for two years now, and before that I had a '96 Discovery. I'd gotten a little water into the intake of the Discovery and destroyed the MAF sensor. I got a used replacement for $300, which would have paid for a snorkel.
With the 110, I've been idly looking on and off since I bought the truck for a deal on a raised air intake, but never really saw any sales and always felt that I had something more important to buy. I bought a roof-top tent, suspension lift (needed new springs and shocks anyway), Wright offroad mats, onboard computer with GPS, winch, etc. but always put off the raised air intake.
I'm not a hard-core off-roader like some, meaning I'm building a capable long-distance travel vehicle rather than a rock crawler. I don't intend to bury my truck up to the windscreen in water. However, I'm 100% getting a snorkel as part of fixing my truck after my bad decision.
People can mention how there's all sorts of other things that need to be done to properly waterproof an engine, and they're right. However, why not at least eliminate ONE source of expensive breakdown? You've got to start somewhere.
Also, for the record and for those of you not familiar with the 200tdi engine, it's mechanically fuel injected and has no ECU. It has a viscous cooling fan.
A couple weeks previously I'd pulled the viscous fan and had put in an electric cooling fan with a cut-off switch. This was obviously off during the water excursion. I have extended axle breather lines, not that they would have caused any engine damage. As the photos show, I wasn't in "extreme" water but was just going too fast for the conditions.
Now I get to learn how to rebuild an engine (never done that before) and I hope for the best.
- Andrew.
The guy in front of me stopped to take some photos (see below) and so I decided to gun it for the camera. Well, that's what I did, and next thing I knew I'd stalled my engine. To make an ongoing story shorter, I now only have compression in two of my cylinders.
With a heavy heart, I called my wife later in the day and explained what happened. The FIRST thing she said to me was, "Well, if you'd had a snorkel this wouldn't have happened." I can't argue with that. She then very graciously told me that these things happen and if I never broke my truck it just meant that I wasn't wheeling hard enough. While I can't 100% agree with that sentiment, I appreciated the support (a LOT). I really love my wife.
I've owned this truck for two years now, and before that I had a '96 Discovery. I'd gotten a little water into the intake of the Discovery and destroyed the MAF sensor. I got a used replacement for $300, which would have paid for a snorkel.
With the 110, I've been idly looking on and off since I bought the truck for a deal on a raised air intake, but never really saw any sales and always felt that I had something more important to buy. I bought a roof-top tent, suspension lift (needed new springs and shocks anyway), Wright offroad mats, onboard computer with GPS, winch, etc. but always put off the raised air intake.
I'm not a hard-core off-roader like some, meaning I'm building a capable long-distance travel vehicle rather than a rock crawler. I don't intend to bury my truck up to the windscreen in water. However, I'm 100% getting a snorkel as part of fixing my truck after my bad decision.
People can mention how there's all sorts of other things that need to be done to properly waterproof an engine, and they're right. However, why not at least eliminate ONE source of expensive breakdown? You've got to start somewhere.
Also, for the record and for those of you not familiar with the 200tdi engine, it's mechanically fuel injected and has no ECU. It has a viscous cooling fan.
A couple weeks previously I'd pulled the viscous fan and had put in an electric cooling fan with a cut-off switch. This was obviously off during the water excursion. I have extended axle breather lines, not that they would have caused any engine damage. As the photos show, I wasn't in "extreme" water but was just going too fast for the conditions.
Now I get to learn how to rebuild an engine (never done that before) and I hope for the best.
- Andrew.
R_Lefebvre
Expedition Leader
I read the first page, and last page of this thread. That's about all that's needed to make my point.
On the first point, somebody stated snorkels are useless unless you do everything else to waterproof the engine.
Now we have the perfect example of what that just isn't the case. If my electrics get wet. Or if I stall and water comes in the exhaust... none of these will result in a DESTROYED engine. If the water comes into the exhaust because of a stalled engine, it won't bend the rods because they weren't moving in the first place.
A snorkel is the only defense against this disastrous outcome.
As far as the bow-wave is concerned, I haven't been in this situation yet with a truck, but I have with my enduro bike. I launched into a puddle that appeared small (I was in a competition, which explains the haste), but it turned out to be quite steep, with a steep entry. I plunged with no opportunity for a bow wave. Luckily it was not quite steep enough to drown the bike. Could have easily gone the other way.
On the first point, somebody stated snorkels are useless unless you do everything else to waterproof the engine.
Now we have the perfect example of what that just isn't the case. If my electrics get wet. Or if I stall and water comes in the exhaust... none of these will result in a DESTROYED engine. If the water comes into the exhaust because of a stalled engine, it won't bend the rods because they weren't moving in the first place.
A snorkel is the only defense against this disastrous outcome.
As far as the bow-wave is concerned, I haven't been in this situation yet with a truck, but I have with my enduro bike. I launched into a puddle that appeared small (I was in a competition, which explains the haste), but it turned out to be quite steep, with a steep entry. I plunged with no opportunity for a bow wave. Luckily it was not quite steep enough to drown the bike. Could have easily gone the other way.