Snorkel Wars

Mamontof

Explorer
I read , i read all that posts ...WOW , lots of words :wings:


Do i have snorkel No , only nice to have one ( so Sexy look ) , it will make me feel

horny when i see my old truck :elkgrin:

Do i need Snorkel ....i newer travel caravan style behind some body to collect

a dust

If snorkel will help cross water.....i more think about electric and fan blades

Did i ever cross a deep water in my Tahoe- yes and i was okay with out

Snorkel
 

valeriano

Observer
I hadn't read the whole thread, but I just had to answer to this crappy arguments...


Him: "no way, I'd never go 'wheeling without one. You never know when you will cross a stream that is deeper than your airbox."

Me: "proper speed will give you a bow wave that will keep water out of your engine compartment. I have had bow waves higher than my hood, and never had a problem with sucking water into my engine."

Try proper speeding here:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGAWMyGWAjc"]YouTube - Jeep Trilha Toyota Bandeirantes submarino Pantanal[/ame]

Him: "But if you would have gotton stuck, you would have sucked water into your engine".

Me: "Yea, but even with a snorkle, if you don't extend your exhaust higher than water line, you will have water run into the engine via the exhaust system as soon as your engine shuts off....and it will shut off, because no one properly seals the electronics package before playing submarine. Not to mention destroying your radiator with the fan because as soon as that water rushes into the engine compartment your fan becomes a propeller and proceeds to deflect and eat the radiator."

My car has no extended exhaust system and I'm pretty sure the water won't EVER go in there. It has no electronics at all (actually, even electrics are very poor. Only the start and the lights. Not even a radio or a cb!) and nothing but lack of diesel (or water) can kill the Mercedes Benz engine it has under the hood.
The fan is a 5mm thick steel plate that has no way to eat the radiator, since no water can break it even on the max rotation of the engine (3500rpm).

Actually, the snorkel saves lots of cleaning when I'm on dirty roads, cuz it has an extra oil filter that retains most of the dust:
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ps: This is a friend's car since my snorkel is still on the way to my house.
 

goodtimes

Expedition Poseur
I hadn't read the whole thread, but I just had to answer to this crappy arguments . . . ps: This is a friend's car since my snorkel is still on the way to my house.

Lots of big words from someone who doesn't even have a snorkel.

Go ahead a post up pictures and videos of *your* rig doing things that require a snorkel. I'm sure everyone would like to see them.

Thanks for playing.
:wavey:
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Most have seen pics of my FJ with the snorkel on it, and I can tell you it saved me not even a week after ARB Headquarters installed it for me.

It was a heavy rainy morning that early morning around 3 am on my way to work, and it happened within two miles of my home.
Some from my area are familiar with the Denny's on Auburn Way south and the train trestle just North of it.
It is dark under there and I was going around 30 MPH (limit is 35) and I saw a police cruiser on the other side sitting sideways, and I am thinking to myself what the heck is he doing.

All of a sudden I see the standing water in front of me but it was to late.
The water was close to two feet deep there and as soon as I hit it slowed me down and it was like time almost stopped.
Then a huge bow wave came up and over the hood and clear up the windshield.
Had I not had the newly installed snorkel, the water would have made its way to the engine via the stock air intake by the passenger tire.

The police officer watched with interest and then grinned as he saw I was snorkeled.
I think he was just getting ready to block it off there until they could get signs out for awhile until they could get the leaves cleaned out of the drains.

I did not buy the snorkel though for water fording so much, but I got it for dust control as when we go on group runs if it is dry out the dust/dirt is flying everywhere, and you can barely see in front of you.
The air cleaner stays much cleaner with the addition of the snorkel.

I ran a homemade one on my '91 4Runner that was more compact.

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valeriano

Observer
Lots of big words from someone who doesn't even have a snorkel.

Go ahead a post up pictures and videos of *your* rig doing things that require a snorkel. I'm sure everyone would like to see them.

Thanks for playing.
:wavey:

I have a snorkel. I just don't like it cuz its made of plastic. I bougth this one with the extra oil filter, but it still hasn't arived. I used it on many floods here.
Floods are pretty common here as you can see in the news. There is one going on right now and it killed more than 600 people. I went there to help some people and it's pretty messy.
My snorkels is essential, but as I don't go to trails with my car (I use it to travel and day use), I don't bother taping it.

Here are some vids of floods from my country where the snorkels made some difference:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDsxbUpaQ0k"]YouTube - Troller na Enchente em São Paulo - Original[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF3XhI51Qhk"]YouTube - Outro Troller na Enchente em São Paulo - Programa Datena[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODyHfEWhBrU"]YouTube - Alagamento em São Paulo - Troller Desbravando[/ame]
 

Ron B

Explorer
this is a fun thread. I agree with most on here that the many do it for looks and don't take all the steps to really seal the snorkel, seal/re-locate the electronics or vent the drivetrain.

Not many rivers to cross here in So Cal but I have been running a donaldson top spin on my hummer for a while with good luck (lost it to a tree branch a few months back) and do notice a difference in the air filter and the dust accumulation in my vacuator valve at the bottom of the air cleaner housing.

here is a great picture a guy in Germany just posted on another forum of him playing in a river. Gotta love mechanical. All went well except one of the portals had water in it when he changes the fluids (wise after playing u-boat commander).
 

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Mamontof

Explorer
When will this misconception die? When? How many videos and pictures need to be posted?

Yes you absolutely right , i am totally with you

My question hay many engine mast be change , and price for that ?

Dive or drive , that so deep personal design
 

ltngaines

Adventurer
Would you like to be the pot or the kettle? :rolleyes:

I'm somewhat active on ~10 different forums, no where have I seen ExPo be regarded to as snobby. Are there some snobby individuals? Possibly, but do similar personalities exist in one form or another on every forum, yes, simply yes. If its that bad, tell your these supposed naysayers to quit reading. Your complaining about posts that are in some cased 4 years old. Oh yeah, your just laughing at the snobs... sounds kinda snobby ;)

To play along with the theme, no snorkel, don't bother coming on a trip with us, its the only 'right' way :p
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And yes, I'm being facetious. Non-snorkeled rigs are always allowed so long as they are Toyota :D
I find it hard to beleave that a man of religion would be that negitive, although alot of people use that as a reason to be above the sins of all other mankind. Relax dont be soo serious....If you cant have any fun, try.
 

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