Spencers Build Thread

[SpencerFitch]

Thanks, I understand its the internet, and this is where kids come out to harass. I can remove the gun shot I suppose, though really my worries of someone stealing it because of the picture is 0.

I also understand my truck isn't like all the others with thousands of dollars of BOUGHT mods on it. I do plan to build or buy a front and rear bumper, but as I said I am unemployed. Its only on the first few months of owning this and everyone has to start somewhere.

How it is now, works for me and it is very capable. And thats all that matters.


After seeing all the [to me] silly huge boxes built into the back of pickups and such I really thought, wow nothing I do can surprise these people. Boy was I wrong.

 

[David Harris]

On Expo we hold that any build discussion be civil and focus on quality of function and safety, just because it isn't pretty or how a person would have done it themselves doesn't mean it is ok to trash talk a build.

Yes. This thread is starting to sound a bit too much like the sort of flaming we see on other boards, IMO. I myself would have approached most aspects of this build differently than the poster, but so would many others have approached them differently than me, no doubt. That's why we're all driving around in different rigs. I think a little more specific constructive criticism is in order. If you don't like something, explain why in a reasoned manner so the discussion is an informative debate, not an out and out dismissal.

 

[4 play]

I THOUGHT I WAS AT PIRATE 4X4 FOR A MINUTE.LOL:coffeedrink:

 

[benlittle]

I THOUGHT I WAS AT PIRATE 4X4 FOR A MINUTE.LOL:coffeedrink:

You've got to be joking. Expo is a step above chuck-e-cheese, no where near pirate.

 

[Toy-Roverlander]

Too be honest. I quite like that disco. The black rims look waaay better. I too would remove the plastic bumpers. I wouldn't put that high-lift so low down on the front though cause it will get covered in crap, and typically, you'll have to dig for it deep down into the mud when you need it the most.

I would have a look out for another headlining though if the old one is beyond use purely for aesthetics. Chicks don't like bare bone roofs :sombrero:

Hope you have fun with it!

 

[SpencerFitch]

Too be honest. I quite like that disco. The black rims look waaay better. I too would remove the plastic bumpers. I wouldn't put that high-lift so low down on the front though cause it will get covered in crap, and typically, you'll have to dig for it deep down into the mud when you need it the most.

I would have a look out for another headlining though if the old one is beyond use purely for aesthetics. Chicks don't like bare bone roofs :sombrero:

Hope you have fun with it!

Thanks

I thought about the location of the high lift, I also considered that its not the easiest to take off with the Bolts. It was just supposed to be a temporary thing I just threw on for a trip I was taking. I would have put it on the back bumper [not much better] But the holes were already in the front and it was just easier. I would like to mount it to a roof rack, just need to get one of those.

 

[Alaska Mike]

We don't comment on the appearance/style/astethetics around here as I understand things. Function/safety yes but if a person wants to take a sawzall to their rig or drive something more trail carnage than an Iraqui taxi cab then that is fine. If they want to rattle can it cammo that is fine.
As a matter of course my understanding is that we don't brand bash or make negitive comments on anything outside of function/safety.

Just a fellow moderator trying to keep this thread from spiraling downhill.

Oh and for troll comment, remember trolling only works if others respond.

I'll respectfully disagree with you here. We do comment on appearance and style all of the time- be it from an OEM, and aftermarket supplier, or an individual. There is no rule prohibiting a negative comment, phrased properly. There are many viewpoints, and here at ExPo we encourage healthy debate.

Aesthetics is a highly subjective issue. Just because I believe his approach to his "build" is one step from a bed frame brush guard does not mean that I am right. Doesn't mean that I'm wrong, either. As I said, it's his vehicle.

 

[I Leak Oil]

Gotta agree with Alaska Mike, I've never seen any rule where you can only make positive comments or none at all, just that it must be done in a respectful manner. If someone posts their stuff on line they need to be prepared for criticism, period, end of story. Like it or not aesthetics does matter and people do make judgements about it. Only telling someone their project is the cat's meow does that person no favors nor does it help the community in the long run. Just need to be adult about it.....

 

[michaels]

ehh. boring.

 

[Alaska Mike]

I'm going to go backwards on your points, because I think the last one illustrates where you're coming from better than any other:

ITS A 4,000$ POS.

Devalue? Like anything I do will stop it from that.

Many here see a Disco of that color and vintage as something more than a POS. The initial and resale price has nothing to do with it. You likely see it (forgive me, I'm guessing here) as just another vehicle- a disposable commodity. Some people have a different view. And yes, I read your bit about how you lusted over European vehicles, but somehow I don't think it quite rings true here.

Man I really thought this place was more mature than discoweb

I tell you what. Post up your "build" on DWeb and see how it's received, then compare and contrast. I find this place to be an extremely mature environment. Adults do disagree from time to time. We just do it in a civil manner. I disagree with benlittle on many things, but while his now-deleted post was a little on the offensive side in wording, I completely support the basic message. Again, YMMV.

Come and get it. Seriously.
Just about everyone down here has one in their glove box. Just letting all you crooks know.

I had a really sarcastic response all typed out, but I'm not going to get into this issue with you. Let's just say that around here we own guns too, and I am extremely serious about responsible use and ownership.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how I ruined the fuctionallity of it. Please Im begging you.

Tearing off plastic and fabric and installing a bunch of quick fists is not what I call a build. A Hi Lift is not a bumper, and having lived in your part of the country I can state that that is possibly the worst place to store what is likely the most useful and dangerous automotive tool ever invented. You're basically ensuring that it will corrode beyond functionality or be inaccessible when you need it most. You could have secured it inside the vehicle until a suitable mounting location could have been found, but instead you went with the "hardcore" location. Form follows function, not the other way around.

There are other points I could make, but you aren't really listening, are you?

I didn't post this up to please you guys. Sad people have nothing better to do than rip on a vehicle.

Actually, I've spend far too much time moderating threads to ensure people remain civil to have much left to rip on a vehicle.

Again, a build thread is an invitation to comment on that build. Comments can be positive or negative in nature, as long as they are phrased in a way that is not offensive to the casual observer. I may have offended you in that I had negative things to say about your "build", but what I said was not offensive in nature. There is a difference.

 

[SuperCal]

Hey Spencer, i like it... When i had my old bronco i had the same headliner problem and solved it the same way, out it went then i sprayed the inside roof to match the interior (ford had this wonderful overspray pattern hidden under the headliner) just so it didnt look as obvious. The plastic front bumper thing, glad you gave it the axe. I might do that on my F-150... Keep up the good work...


Calvin

 

[SpencerFitch]

First. The engine is a pos.
Second I never said I was done with the build.. No where near. Eve read a build thread.

Third please stop wasting your time I potty you. Go spend time with your family or something more important.

I'm going to go backwards on your points, because I think the last one illustrates where you're coming from better than any other:

Many here see a Disco of that color and vintage as something more than a POS. The initial and resale price has nothing to do with it. You likely see it (forgive me, I'm guessing here) as just another vehicle- a disposable commodity. Some people have a different view. And yes, I read your bit about how you lusted over European vehicles, but somehow I don't think it quite rings true here.

I tell you what. Post up your "build" on DWeb and see how it's received, then compare and contrast. I find this place to be an extremely mature environment. Adults do disagree from time to time. We just do it in a civil manner. I disagree with benlittle on many things, but while his now-deleted post was a little on the offensive side in wording, I completely support the basic message. Again, YMMV.

I had a really sarcastic response all typed out, but I'm not going to get into this issue with you. Let's just say that around here we own guns too, and I am extremely serious about responsible use and ownership.

Tearing off plastic and fabric and installing a bunch of quick fists is not what I call a build. A Hi Lift is not a bumper, and having lived in your part of the country I can state that that is possibly the worst place to store what is likely the most useful and dangerous automotive tool ever invented. You're basically ensuring that it will corrode beyond functionality or be inaccessible when you need it most. You could have secured it inside the vehicle until a suitable mounting location could have been found, but instead you went with the "hardcore" location. Form follows function, not the other way around.

There are other points I could make, but you aren't really listening, are you?

Actually, I've spend far too much time moderating threads to ensure people remain civil to have much left to rip on a vehicle.

Again, a build thread is an invitation to comment on that build. Comments can be positive or negative in nature, as long as they are phrased in a way that is not offensive to the casual observer. I may have offended you in that I had negative things to say about your "build", but what I said was not offensive in nature. There is a difference.

 

[KLAKEBRONCO]

Looks fine to me. I don't care for the headliner removal though.

FWIW you can buy headliner material at some of the hobby stores that sell fabrics for sewing. I think the one near us is called Michael's.

You just pull all the old headliner off, brush off all the foam left over, and spray both with 3m contact glue. Let it tack, gently and carefully set it in place, then "pat it down". You aren't really smoothing it out, because once it touches it's stuck.

If you go this route you can treat the fabric with various stain guards, uv protectors etc before gluing.

 

[Hilldweller]

Again, a build thread is an invitation to comment on that build. Comments can be positive or negative in nature, as long as they are phrased in a way that is not offensive to the casual observer. I may have offended you in that I had negative things to say about your "build", but what I said was not offensive in nature. There is a difference.

I think you were quite fair, Mike; and I agree that a little "tough love" is warranted here.
ExPo is and needs to remain more than a show-&-tell venue; we are nothing without our honest opinions, forged from experience.