I can't go into the proprietary way the tub and top are bonded, but I have zero worries this seam can leak even with rigorous offroad use. Time and use will prove things out, though.
Supertramp Flagship HT – Hard-sided Slide-in 6.5' Pickup Camper
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I can't go into the proprietary way the tub and top are bonded, but I have zero worries this seam can leak even with rigorous offroad use. Time and use will prove things out, though.
Like DTA said, The 'Truma Combi' propane cabin and water heater is standard. The 'Truma Combi Plus' is an optional upgrade and adds a 120v 20amp plug for running the cabin heater and water heater off shore power, propane, or a combination of both (prioritizing electric and making up the difference with propane). Electric draw can be set to two levels. I'll detail that system more in the coming days.
Another interesting, and new, upgrade option is the Diesel version of the Truma Combi which also replaces the propane stove with induction cooktop making a propane-free camper. The diesel version includes it's own small diesel tank so doesn't matter if your pickup is diesel or gas. The camper is removable, so Supertramp makes it self contained, but aftermarket, one could always make the pickup's diesel tank the fuel source for a larger supply. Typically the heaters diesel probe is of a length that it will only draw your fuel tank down to 25% and no more. That way it won't strand you by sucking your fuel tank dry in the middle of nowhere.
Not a big fan of the outside design (I would have to see it in person for a better view), but I really like what they did on the interior with the windows. So much light from the upper windows - great job, STC team!
This is not a camper I would purchase, but that is due to my use case being very different. I also have not seen this in person - so, my feedback may be different once I have seen one. But with that out of the way, here are my initials thoughts.
- I love the windows and the light they provide
- Love the additional storage and that it is easier to access
- This thing is ready for some really cold weather (yay). I would definitely feel confident taking this to the arctic circle in February.
- Great job with the Molle panel placement
Here are my initial thoughts about making it even "better" (better in the eye of the beholder):
1) I would definitely like to see an HT with the driver-side lower window.
2) Make the cabinets near the bed a tiny little bit deeper. I'd think 1-2 inch would go a long way.
3) Embedd power outlets (at least USB-C) into the cabinets near the bed so that it is easier to charge phones overnight
4) I can already see myself bumping my head at the over-the-sink corner cabinet when washing my face. Personally, I would extend the cabinet further down to move the edge further down or make it a shelf below so that the edge is further down
5) Use the cabinets to add some mood light options
6) Get rid of the rear window and rather put a larger door in.
7) Fill the space under the cabinets with an open shelf that can be detached if needed. That way a smaller person could still sleep on that bench.
I saw a sneak-photo before I went down and at first, I wasn't sure how the black belt would look. Not sure if it was because I had a bit of time between seeing that image and seeing it in person or if images don't do it justice, but from the first time I saw it in person, I thought it looked great. I do kind of like the photoshopped images above with camper-colored trim, too. Not better; just different. Will be interesting to see the HT in other colors, too.
It did great in the cold. My nights out were 15F, 3F, 17F ambient temperature. And it was really a secure, sturdy feeling. And open without the two internal actuators of the pop-top version. I'll go more into the experience in the coming days.
I like a lot of your suggestions and I'll comment in order.
1) I would definitely like to see an HT with the driver-side lower window. - Same! We love the drive-side window in our LT, but I'm curious to see what it looks like from the outside with the hard top windows.
2) Make the cabinets near the bed a tiny little bit deeper. I'd think 1-2 inch would go a long way. - Would be good to have them prototype that and see how it effects the feel. I use both cabinets a lot and was much nicer grabbing often-used things from these cabinets than from underbench storage.
3) Embed power outlets (at least USB-C) into the cabinets near the bed so that it is easier to charge phones overnight - They have a USB outlet and one Truma vent. Also some openings for side access. More images in the coming days.
4) I can already see myself bumping my head at the over-the-sink corner cabinet when washing my face. Personally, I would extend the cabinet further down to move the edge further down or make it a shelf below so that the edge is further down - I washed my face, brushed teeth, etc. and never had an issue. Don't recall thinking about it so it is either not in the way or I subconsciously avoided disaster! Ha.
5) Use the cabinets to add some mood light options - I like your style.
6) Get rid of the rear window and rather put a larger door in. - That would be an interesting design issue. Worth mentioning to the team. I'm sure they considered it and the complications/cost out weight the return. But you're right in that most hard top buyers might expect a taller door. Coming from three different pop-top campers, it didn't even occur to me. Good perspective.
7) Fill the space under the cabinets with an open shelf that can be detached if needed. That way a smaller person could still sleep on that bench. - They have introduced one design of shelving option for the LT called the "microwave shelf" (but it can be used for anything of course). Not really compatible with the cabinet because it is too tall, but perhaps a shorter version. One does start to run out of real estate because of the control panels and cold air return. I liked the idea of that cabinet running all the way down, but that would require a fair bit of redesign for the control panel (since each control sits in a molded in depression in the side panel), but there is also the challenge of the silverware drawer clearance if controls were moved out and up to that level.