Suspension bushings - FG94 from Japan Canter FG538B

[kookynet]

pict attached

Here are the dimensions of the front leafs.

What does probably NOT fit:
USA Fuso 93 - part ref MB025153
total length 46 mm (1-13/16")
disc diameter 46 mm (1-13/16")
disc thickness 7 mm (9/32")
cylinder diameter 39 mm (1-9/16")
hole diameter 22 mm (14/16")

Does your Canter/Fuso leafs are the same +/- 1 mm as those on the picture ?

Thanks
Robert

 

[alan]

Hi robert,
This site may help you with bush sizes.

www.nolathane.com.au

 

[kookynet]

Nolathane email

Alan, thanks Mate.

My heart started beating faster... when I checked their web site, but I have not seen the Canter FG538 model.

I wish to ask them via email from here in Mexico, but no email contact shows on their site.

Do you have these guys email please ?
Thanks
Robert

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Robert,

What does probably NOT fit:
USA Fuso 93 - part ref MB025153
total length 46 mm (1-13/16")
disc diameter 46 mm (1-13/16")
disc thickness 7 mm (9/32")
cylinder diameter 39 mm (1-9/16")
hole diameter 22 mm (14/16")

These bushes are exactly the same as all of the Australian models . I spoke to the guys I mentioned in the PM and all agree. Also we've never heard of the Japanese FG538 . Some of the Jap models looked smaller than ours for some reason. Anyway if the sized bushes you mention above don't fit then our Australia model bushes won't either. Looks like you might have to quote the exact measurements to one of the aftermarket guys such as Nolathane or Superpro, etc . as suggested. The genuine Fuso bushes are the best though, especially in sand and I imagine you'll see a bit of that down Baja way.

John.

 

[PKDreamers]

Hi checked today Superpro do 3 ID's 21mm, 22mm and 23mm for that bush.
Nolathane only list one ID which is 22mm same as White Line.
All the other specs are the same.
I hope this is a help.

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi checked today Superpro do 3 ID's 21mm, 22mm and 23mm for that bush.
Nolathane only list one ID which is 22mm same as White Line.
All the other specs are the same.

Our pins on the shackles and front hanger are about 22mm.

 

[FusoFG]

pict attached

Here are the dimensions of the front leafs.

What does probably NOT fit:
USA Fuso 93 - part ref MB025153
total length 46 mm (1-13/16")
disc diameter 46 mm (1-13/16")
disc thickness 7 mm (9/32")
cylinder diameter 39 mm (1-9/16")
hole diameter 22 mm (14/16")

Does your Canter/Fuso leafs are the same +/- 1 mm as those on the picture ?

Thanks
Robert

not sure whether the dimensions listed above or the dimensions on the picture are those of your vehicle or of parts that don't fit.

I have 2 FG's.

The dimensions on the 2004 are 56 mm for the diameter and 86 mm for the length of the front bracket, top of the back shackle and bottom of the back shackle bushings.

actually there are 6 bushings per spring because one bushing is pushed in from either side.

my manual implies that the top of the back shakle and the bottom of the back shackle are the same and may be different from the front bracket because the pictures use different part identifiers for the front and back.

but the actual bushings on the truck appear to be the same, although I can't see inside the spring end to verify that.

The dimensions for the 1993 are the same for the front 56 mm in diameter and 86 mm in length.

The dimensions for the top of the back shackle appear to be 54 mm in diameter and 86 mm in length.

The dimensions for the bottom of the back shackle appear to be 58 mm in diameter and 86 mm in length.

difficult to be sure because the "disk", as you call it gets squeezed when the nuts are tightened.

The 93 manual implies that all the bushings are the same because the are identified in the picture with the same number.

Both years workshop manuals show something inserted in the ends of the springs called "collars".

They look just like the picture of the bushings. They may be something that goes between the bushing and the spring end or they may be the same part and just miss translated from Japanese.


Neither of my vehicles appear to have a shorter bushing on the top of the back shackle compared to the bottom of the back shackle as you show in your picture.

 

[engineer]

I'm not having much luck with the model No.
I've never put different Bushes in the back, front, top or bottom.. They come in packs of 12, all the same and easily fitted. I will try and get some pics today as I will change a set of them on one of mine to get some measurements.
Chock

 

[engineer]

I've done the job, pics have to wait until tonight.
On ours (FG649C) Shackle pins are 21.5mm and the bush ID is 21.6mm
the mounting bracket and spring eye ID is 39.5mm and the bush OD is 39.9mm
LOA for the bushes are 41.5
Everything fits fine and all bushes are made with neoprene, lubrication via mobil XHP grease
I'd say the suspension parts are the same as yours Robert.
Hope I've been some help
Chock

 

[engineer]

Hey Robert,
Are your shackles samller at the top, wider at the bottom?

 

[PKDreamers]

FG538

Wow look at the rear air con and the flares


4X4 with 4d35

 

[kookynet]

Hey Robert,
Are your shackles samller at the top, wider at the bottom?

Yes, as the pic shows it, the space between the rear upper shackle is bigger. (Rear of front suspension leafs).

 

[kookynet]

Sorry, I meant wider in the bottom, narrower on the top.
Dimensions +/- 1 mm are on the pic at start of thread.

BTW, thanks to everybody. Feels good not to feel alone when in trouble ! Although we do not complain, the little town is fine and people friendly. And if we need a couple more months to be able to leave, we'll be in the whales seasons (they give birth in the laguna)...

Here are some details:

Japanese trucks did not have Vin numbers. Confirmed by a japanese source. So it is likely not a stolen truck ! Good news :victory:

FusoFG has same leafs dimensions (for large bushings) as mine so we both have an issue with the parts I have received ! We will PM each other for details and report later our findings, if relevant.

The Aftermarket bushings cover some models, obvoiusly not the FG538 as mine, in a narrow version (convenient on some quad tracks and we expect in some south american villages... when we'll get there ).

Since we inspect the truck for more maintenance work, we run into similar issues.

The way to move smartly is, as we feel it, to find a way to:

- link a truck model+chassis number to parts numbers. we look for CDs etc. Or,
- find a japanese exporter for parts, based only on truck model+chassis number,

and any way, find a repair manual specific to the FG538 (I have the ones for the US trucks since 1992 but there are differences...) best in roman alphabet... at worse in japanese, as long as the diagrams are there...

Any ideas, contacts are welcome.

If we succeed in this approach, the planet will become more friendly to Canter/Fuso owners and overlanders, and cheaper too !

Thanks to all.
Robert

 

[whatcharterboat]

Wow look at the rear air con and the flares

Robert, you can see what I mean in my PM about the Japanese imports being smaller trucks than our Australian models. This is why they need the flares. They still run the same or similar diffs but the cabs are so much narrower. Notice how there is only a single glovebox instead of a double and how the middle passenger seat is hard up against the driver's seat instead of a 200mm gap. John. Just noticed the Auto hubs on the import too.

 

[Amesz00]

how there is only a single glovebox instead of a double and how the middle passenger seat is hard up against the driver's seat instead of a 200mm gap

Also note the skinny grille, i have seen one of these in NZ with a workshop body or similar on it, they are much smaller than our FGs.

They still run the same or similar diffs

So John, would that mean that these trucks have a similar GVM (5.5 or 6t) to our FGs?