SSF556
SE Expedition Society
You lost 50lbs in 16 days...:Wow1:
Switching my life to "not Jeans". Can I get some recomendations for good NON JEANS
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You lost 50lbs in 16 days...:Wow1:
jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
I picked up a pair of the REI Endeavor pants this year and they have been my go to for fishing and hunting http://www.rei.com/product/878317/rei-endeavor-pants-mens-30-inseam I have spent about 25 days in them hunting and fishing and still look new aside from some minor abrasions by the ankles from rocks and sage brush.
Personally made the switch out of blue jeans about 9 years back. Being a function first and form second, I too own a smattering of KUHL brand pants. As they are more of a twill blend, one can get by with wearing them with a dress shirt/tie & jacket. Mostly the RYDER style suits me, but the KONTRA and a pair of the RENEGADE also serve wonderful purposes. Several pair of LA Police Gear Operator pants are wonderful for cabin work and getting dirty in, plus the multitude of pockets affords the ability to take some extras along. I'd like to try some Mountain Khakis - but finding sizes for my lanky frame has always been difficult: I stand 6'7"
http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/pants/rydr-pant/
http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/pants/kontra-pant/
http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/pants/renegade-pant/
http://www.lapolicegear.com/elastic-waist-operator-pant.html
http://www.mountainkhakis.com/products/men/pants/
http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/pants/rydr-pant/
http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/pants/kontra-pant/
http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/pants/renegade-pant/
http://www.lapolicegear.com/elastic-waist-operator-pant.html
http://www.mountainkhakis.com/products/men/pants/
Ha ha. Went in, and could not help myself. What a store!
My Choices
I love my Kuhl pants and a few styles of North Face pants. I have a couple of pair of Mountain Hardwear pant that I like too. I have tried the Mountain Khakis and they don't me right. I gave it another shot this past summer and tried a pair of shorts. They still have the tag on them, not for me.
I love my Kuhl pants and a few styles of North Face pants. I have a couple of pair of Mountain Hardwear pant that I like too. I have tried the Mountain Khakis and they don't me right. I gave it another shot this past summer and tried a pair of shorts. They still have the tag on them, not for me.
tarditi
Explorer
I have a minor update - recently was given a pair of REI Sahara and Sahara convertibles... the sahara regulars fit great, the convertibles are a bit large-to-size and baggy in the butt.
Also tried Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS) convertibles and they fit somewhere between the sahara and sahara convertible in fit, but just as comfy.
5.11 came out with a "covert cargo pant" so I got a pair and tried them out. Wow! They are is super comfortable and well designed, as well as low-profile. Not "tacti-cool" looking at all. They are also cotton canvas, not nylon or polycotton. http://www.511tactical.com/511-covert-cargo-pant.html
Also tried Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS) convertibles and they fit somewhere between the sahara and sahara convertible in fit, but just as comfy.
5.11 came out with a "covert cargo pant" so I got a pair and tried them out. Wow! They are is super comfortable and well designed, as well as low-profile. Not "tacti-cool" looking at all. They are also cotton canvas, not nylon or polycotton. http://www.511tactical.com/511-covert-cargo-pant.html
Switching my life to "not Jeans". Can I get some recomendations for good NON...
I have done Kuhl, Carhartt, Riggs, Prana, etc. My primary go to pants are one of the seven different color PrAna Zion Stretch pants I have. I bought a pair from REI one year and loved them so much that when they went on sale at BackCountry about 5 months later I bought them in every color they had. I have some that are the standard pants and some that are the convertibles and like them both. If we are doing logging work or something I know is going to be snagging on my pants all day I will wear the Riggs Workwear pants. These seems to fit me better than Carhartt and the ripstop fabric has been very impressive in terms of abuse they will take.
I have done Kuhl, Carhartt, Riggs, Prana, etc. My primary go to pants are one of the seven different color PrAna Zion Stretch pants I have. I bought a pair from REI one year and loved them so much that when they went on sale at BackCountry about 5 months later I bought them in every color they had. I have some that are the standard pants and some that are the convertibles and like them both. If we are doing logging work or something I know is going to be snagging on my pants all day I will wear the Riggs Workwear pants. These seems to fit me better than Carhartt and the ripstop fabric has been very impressive in terms of abuse they will take.
thethePete
Explorer
The Kuhl pants look amazing, I just haven't actually pulled the trigger on a pair yet, but my go-to is definitely Carhartt, coming from a construction family, nothing else wears like it, and they have some more "street clothing" oriented stuff now that is just as durable, but comfortable and doesn't look like you just walked off a construction site.
cruiserdude80
Observer
I went back thru the posts, somewhat, and did not see Vertx pants noted. I have several pair, their cargo pockets are discrete, and they fit well. I have found that their waist sizing tends toward a tighter fit when compared to other brands of the same size. Vertx pants are a very subtle cargo pant.
I also have 5.11s and Tru Spec 24/7s also. The 5.11s look like they have been slept in after minimal wearing. The Tru Specss I really like, their sizing is accurate, they wear well, and don't wrinkle up after wearing for a short period of time.
I also have 5.11s and Tru Spec 24/7s also. The 5.11s look like they have been slept in after minimal wearing. The Tru Specss I really like, their sizing is accurate, they wear well, and don't wrinkle up after wearing for a short period of time.
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Frank
Explorer
I went to Cabela's yesterday to pick up some Columbia pants and was turned on by their new Cabela Guidewear brand.
I picked a pair up and must say, they are very comfortable. Lots of pockets in all of the right places and the pants host all of the latest fabric technology.
They do run long. I usually wear a 34 inseam, these are 32 and fine.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/CABELAS-MENS-GUIDEWEAR-TRENTON-PANT/1979387.uts
I picked a pair up and must say, they are very comfortable. Lots of pockets in all of the right places and the pants host all of the latest fabric technology.
They do run long. I usually wear a 34 inseam, these are 32 and fine.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/CABELAS-MENS-GUIDEWEAR-TRENTON-PANT/1979387.uts
harbinger808
Adventurer
I've switched away from jeans 3-4 yrs ago. Bought 4 pairs of North Face convertibles that were fine for a year til they started to fall apart at the zippers and the fabric started "thinning" out at the butt and thigh area. Looked on line long and hard and came across Arcteryx LEAF division. I was skeptical of paying 300+ for a pair of pants but settled on the Combat Pant in Wolf and Coyote... Gray and Khaki-ish.
http://leaf.arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?language=EN&gender=Mens&model=Combat-Pant
Found them online for an amazing deal 3 years ago. The pants have held up from normal everyday use, hiking and working in the sun on all types of terrain. I know that it will hold up for another 5+ years unless I become a fats
and need a new size. If I can ever find this on sale for $250US again or even used, I would not hesitate. Buy once Cry once. I know a lot of individuals here would say those prices are ridiculous but we all put value on the things we buy. Our camping gear, trucks etc...
Just my 2 cents.
http://leaf.arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?language=EN&gender=Mens&model=Combat-Pant
Found them online for an amazing deal 3 years ago. The pants have held up from normal everyday use, hiking and working in the sun on all types of terrain. I know that it will hold up for another 5+ years unless I become a fats
and need a new size. If I can ever find this on sale for $250US again or even used, I would not hesitate. Buy once Cry once. I know a lot of individuals here would say those prices are ridiculous but we all put value on the things we buy. Our camping gear, trucks etc... Just my 2 cents.
mjmcdowell
Explorer
Non jeans......
300+ for a pair of pant's!!!!!!!!:Wow1: no way, no way ever.... thats worse than Mtn. crapies and I'll bet they are still made off shore. You know what they say... "fool's and there money are soon parted" just sayin.. mjmcdowell
300+ for a pair of pant's!!!!!!!!:Wow1: no way, no way ever.... thats worse than Mtn. crapies and I'll bet they are still made off shore. You know what they say... "fool's and there money are soon parted" just sayin.. mjmcdowell
harbinger808
Adventurer
I feel what you are saying mjmcdowell. keep in mind that repairs are pretty much free or at a very reasonable price. they are comfortable and the pockets that are laid out work for me. I would never buy them at full retail price. thats why i said if i can ever find a deal on them again. my dad went through a lot of pants from a bunch of the names mentioned on this thread and used them all hard and some of them fell apart and weren't warrantied. he's spent more than i have in the past 3-4 years than i have.
as always, to each his own my friend
as always, to each his own my friend
Added a few companies to my list of quality, made in the USA products (Dirtball & Wickers), thanks
For those who may be interested, with the exception of the two above and TAD, almost every pair of pants listed in this thread is made in China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Afghanistan, etc. This is true for some brands costing hundreds of dollars (ArcTeryx)
SOME items from Filson, Cabela's and Carhart MAY be made in the US still, but they are few and far between. I would much prefer to spend $200 - $300 on a pair of quality pants, not made in SE Asia and have them last 10-15 years, than to buy something for $20 - $40 and toss it in the land fill when it tears up in a few months. If more people INVESTED in gear and clothing instead of buying "price", there would not be so many items being made in China, Cambodia, etc.
This is especially true for companies like North Face, Patagonia and Marmot, who have "expedition to Everest" written all over them, charge a zillion dollars for their garments and make them all in SE Asia. It IS difficult to find quality brands made in the US still, but it can be done. I have dozens of pages of notes and links for such products and these are the companies that we should be supporting, with our hard earned cash, so we can go enjoy the great outdoors.
EDIT: To end on a more positive note, I though I would add a few items from my notes that may fit the criteria specified by the OP. Check out L.C. King in Tennessee, http://www.dubarry.us/ - has several stocking dealers throughout the US and http://www.oakhall.com/mens/ - carries well made men's clothing from around the world.
Cheers
For those who may be interested, with the exception of the two above and TAD, almost every pair of pants listed in this thread is made in China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Afghanistan, etc. This is true for some brands costing hundreds of dollars (ArcTeryx)
SOME items from Filson, Cabela's and Carhart MAY be made in the US still, but they are few and far between. I would much prefer to spend $200 - $300 on a pair of quality pants, not made in SE Asia and have them last 10-15 years, than to buy something for $20 - $40 and toss it in the land fill when it tears up in a few months. If more people INVESTED in gear and clothing instead of buying "price", there would not be so many items being made in China, Cambodia, etc.
This is especially true for companies like North Face, Patagonia and Marmot, who have "expedition to Everest" written all over them, charge a zillion dollars for their garments and make them all in SE Asia. It IS difficult to find quality brands made in the US still, but it can be done. I have dozens of pages of notes and links for such products and these are the companies that we should be supporting, with our hard earned cash, so we can go enjoy the great outdoors.
EDIT: To end on a more positive note, I though I would add a few items from my notes that may fit the criteria specified by the OP. Check out L.C. King in Tennessee, http://www.dubarry.us/ - has several stocking dealers throughout the US and http://www.oakhall.com/mens/ - carries well made men's clothing from around the world.
Cheers
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