I've been wearing 5.11 Stryke pants for a few months (shortly after this thread started) and like them a lot. Great fit and wear well, resist water and stains. The only problem is they still look a little too 'tactical' with all the pockets. I bought a couple of pairs of 5.11 Covert Khaki 2.0 recently and they are great. Same teflon coating, good fit, with hidden leg pockets (for flashlight, knife), same elastic waistband. Look dressy enough to wear to the office and very comfortable. They're also cheaper - $45-50 per pair vs. $70 for the Stryke.