TerraLiner:12 m Globally Mobile Beach House/Class-A Crossover w 6x6 Hybrid Drivetrain
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J E S U S !!!!
Bio - IF I wanted to read through all the CROWN-info just YOU provided, .... I'd be at it for the better part of a year!!
YES, Crown WAS the king of Schoolbuses for sure - their quality-build most likely also put them out of business....
Too expensive and too GOOD in the long run.....[Less clients for the higher price to start with and then these clients didn't want/need to replace them as soon as the others!!]
[I am not sure about this, but I think in certain or all US-states there is a 10-year max. mandatory retirement law for schoolbuses (...in school service). So it only makes sense for an operator to skip the more expensive (albeit way better...) bus for one that does the 10 years and then needs replacement anyway...]
Too bad we live in a "use and throw away" society these days....
Yes, you covered Bluebird. Skoolie builders seem to prefer it today as it is the most consistent over the years.
All others changed owners over time and had some chassis, body, suspension, engine, transmission combinations thrown at them, that are not always that great.
Thomas-built is also still a very solid bus, today owned by Freightliner (....and so owned by Mercedes), present engine line-up is Cummins (... very popular amongst Skoolie builders). If you check their website, it is basically a copy of the Bluebird site - ...after all they are the 2 remaining powerhouses in schoolbuses (like Ford and GM, or Nissan and Toyota, or......pick your sample!). Though the latest line-up is still some 10-15 years away of becoming built skoolies.....
By then I would hope there would be some neat aftermarket Serial Hybrid kits out there to modify Skoolies in that direction1
[...one of the points I seriously will research, should I find the time to do "my" Skoolie some day ....]
All others are buses [...to schoolbus spec] too, but it seems with cheaper build quality, Carpenter, Spartan, Ward (today IC), etc...
(I am sure there are many more, but these are the ones popping up on the Skoolie sites...)
In any case - the CROWN is THE ONE to have a look at, if you want to see the best Skoolie build tech and quality - you already did, so I guess - DONE!
The real problem for Skoolie builders is to fetch a good Crown - ANYWHERE!!
Those that have one don't sell, those that sell are EXPENSIVE or crashed....
cheers,
thjakits
Bio - IF I wanted to read through all the CROWN-info just YOU provided, .... I'd be at it for the better part of a year!!
YES, Crown WAS the king of Schoolbuses for sure - their quality-build most likely also put them out of business....
Too expensive and too GOOD in the long run.....[Less clients for the higher price to start with and then these clients didn't want/need to replace them as soon as the others!!]
[I am not sure about this, but I think in certain or all US-states there is a 10-year max. mandatory retirement law for schoolbuses (...in school service). So it only makes sense for an operator to skip the more expensive (albeit way better...) bus for one that does the 10 years and then needs replacement anyway...]
Too bad we live in a "use and throw away" society these days....
Yes, you covered Bluebird. Skoolie builders seem to prefer it today as it is the most consistent over the years.
All others changed owners over time and had some chassis, body, suspension, engine, transmission combinations thrown at them, that are not always that great.
Thomas-built is also still a very solid bus, today owned by Freightliner (....and so owned by Mercedes), present engine line-up is Cummins (... very popular amongst Skoolie builders). If you check their website, it is basically a copy of the Bluebird site - ...after all they are the 2 remaining powerhouses in schoolbuses (like Ford and GM, or Nissan and Toyota, or......pick your sample!). Though the latest line-up is still some 10-15 years away of becoming built skoolies.....
By then I would hope there would be some neat aftermarket Serial Hybrid kits out there to modify Skoolies in that direction1
[...one of the points I seriously will research, should I find the time to do "my" Skoolie some day ....]
All others are buses [...to schoolbus spec] too, but it seems with cheaper build quality, Carpenter, Spartan, Ward (today IC), etc...
(I am sure there are many more, but these are the ones popping up on the Skoolie sites...)
In any case - the CROWN is THE ONE to have a look at, if you want to see the best Skoolie build tech and quality - you already did, so I guess - DONE!
The real problem for Skoolie builders is to fetch a good Crown - ANYWHERE!!
Those that have one don't sell, those that sell are EXPENSIVE or crashed....
cheers,
thjakits
dwh
Tail-End Charlie
School buses are ALL tanks. Yea, the Crown Super is awesome - except for the really horrible to get at engine. There are tons of Crowns still in use, mostly by the 3rd party "outsourcers" that a lot of school districts use.
But they are ALL tanks:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ttened-drivers-Honda-Accord-leaving-dead.html
But they are ALL tanks:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ttened-drivers-Honda-Accord-leaving-dead.html
....schoolbus vs. CAR - I'll hold and raise you to:
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/1856/2130/400/82335/hummer_accident3.jpg
As dwh said: We got a TANK!!
...a little sheetmetal, but essentially the bus didn't move.
I hope the Hummer didn't have any fatality....
thjakits
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/1856/2130/400/82335/hummer_accident3.jpg
As dwh said: We got a TANK!!
...a little sheetmetal, but essentially the bus didn't move.
I hope the Hummer didn't have any fatality....
thjakits
biotect
Designer
thjakits and dwh,
Those are some incredible images!!
Just thought I should add a few more:
If one reads the webpages where these images appear, almost always it turns out that the drivers and passengers in the cars were either killed, or very seriously injured. Whereas the children in the schoolbuses either had no injuries, or were hospitalized with minor injuries.
So yes, agreed, schoolbuses are built like tanks.....
All best wishes,
Biotect
Those are some incredible images!!
Just thought I should add a few more:
If one reads the webpages where these images appear, almost always it turns out that the drivers and passengers in the cars were either killed, or very seriously injured. Whereas the children in the schoolbuses either had no injuries, or were hospitalized with minor injuries.
So yes, agreed, schoolbuses are built like tanks.....
All best wishes,
Biotect
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Crown has prove so interesting, that it seemed worthwhile to post a bit more. (Yes, thjakits, yet more years of reading......:sombrero: )
First off, I came across the following image of an old Crown bus equipped with skylights, for sightseeing:
This Crown bus immediately struck me as reminiscent of the VW Kombi "Samba", just larger. The Samba had no less than 23 windows:
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Crown has prove so interesting, that it seemed worthwhile to post a bit more. (Yes, thjakits, yet more years of reading......:sombrero: )
First off, I came across the following image of an old Crown bus equipped with skylights, for sightseeing:
This Crown bus immediately struck me as reminiscent of the VW Kombi "Samba", just larger. The Samba had no less than 23 windows:
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Next, here are some videos about Crown buses:
[video=youtube;dqU8YSs5IVg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqU8YSs5IVg&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsS w3KY0p93l&index=9[/video] [video=youtube;bjhZiLn2kzg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjhZiLn2kzg&list=PLXBH3Gw5g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnV jFxMFNoTV&index=4[/video] [video=youtube;C6tIApZDjzI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6tIApZDjzI [/video]
[video=youtube;PFiAli6zHzk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFiAli6zHzk&index=2&list=PLXBH3Gw5 g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnVjFxMFNoTV[/video] [video=youtube;Itu3C7VE2aY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itu3C7VE2aY [/video]
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Next, here are some videos about Crown buses:
[video=youtube;dqU8YSs5IVg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqU8YSs5IVg&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsS w3KY0p93l&index=9[/video] [video=youtube;bjhZiLn2kzg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjhZiLn2kzg&list=PLXBH3Gw5g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnV jFxMFNoTV&index=4[/video] [video=youtube;C6tIApZDjzI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6tIApZDjzI [/video]
[video=youtube;PFiAli6zHzk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFiAli6zHzk&index=2&list=PLXBH3Gw5 g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnVjFxMFNoTV[/video] [video=youtube;Itu3C7VE2aY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itu3C7VE2aY [/video]
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[video=youtube;FL3zy9VFVW8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL3zy9VFVW8&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsS w3KY0p93l&index=10[/video]
[video=youtube;vZAYdfJH-zI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZAYdfJH-zI&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsSw3KY0p93l&index= 3[/video] [video=youtube;RbI-fixQvp8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbI-fixQvp8&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsSw3KY0p93l&in dex=4[/video]
[video=youtube;FK3p0AcBcLY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK3p0AcBcLY [/video] [video=youtube;L-lw6LQlAxg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-lw6LQlAxg [/video] [video=youtube;qQ_-8iM7BG4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_-8iM7BG4 [/video]
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[video=youtube;vZAYdfJH-zI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZAYdfJH-zI&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsSw3KY0p93l&index= 3[/video] [video=youtube;RbI-fixQvp8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbI-fixQvp8&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsSw3KY0p93l&in dex=4[/video]
[video=youtube;FK3p0AcBcLY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK3p0AcBcLY [/video] [video=youtube;L-lw6LQlAxg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-lw6LQlAxg [/video] [video=youtube;qQ_-8iM7BG4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_-8iM7BG4 [/video]
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[video=youtube;0ewF-XRLqpg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ewF-XRLqpg&list=PLXBH3Gw5g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnVjFxMFNoTV&ind ex=7[/video] [video=youtube;bHvamGeQkJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvamGeQkJs&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsS w3KY0p93l&index=8[/video]
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And see the Crown YouTube playlists at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXBH3Gw5g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnVjFxMFNoTV and https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsSw3KY0p93l .
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[video=youtube;0ewF-XRLqpg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ewF-XRLqpg&list=PLXBH3Gw5g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnVjFxMFNoTV&ind ex=7[/video] [video=youtube;bHvamGeQkJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvamGeQkJs&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsS w3KY0p93l&index=8[/video]
[video=youtube;rnxRUGh8ldE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnxRUGh8ldE&list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsS w3KY0p93l&index=12[/video] [video=youtube;cwKGwwgbgSU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwKGwwgbgSU&list=PLXBH3Gw5g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnV jFxMFNoTV&index=9[/video]
And see the Crown YouTube playlists at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXBH3Gw5g8Bl5Byw0Ur9BqnVjFxMFNoTV and https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLprv5KWFZsK2SYjvx5ppbYsSw3KY0p93l .
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