The Elon Musk "Love Will Keep Us Together" Appreciation Thread

Who is the Muskiest of them All?

  • Richard Branson

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • Richard Jewell

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Elon Musk

    Votes: 7 50.0%
  • Kimbal Musk

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Muskrat

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Ron Bugundy

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Muskellunge

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Big Muskie

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Ed Muskie

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Total voters
    14

Bayou Boy

Adventurer
I find stationary paper money to be useful. :unsure:

Once you have enough for emergencies, excess cash loses value every day. Holding it is useless. It’s an asset that should be deployed to do something. Hire people, invest in businesses, or just buy stuff or experiences to make your life more enjoyable.

You will never find someone with a high net worth that just has a (relative) ton of cash on hand and not working somehow.


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Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
On the other hand, 75k is petty cash for a multi-billionare. It's like normal people carrying a $20.
 

Bayou Boy

Adventurer
On the other hand, 75k is petty cash for a multi-billionare. It's like normal people carrying a $20.

That’s why I inserted that (relative) in there. And the percentage of cash on hand will get lower and lower as net worth goes up.

Example: $1 million net worth and you might keep $100-200k in the bank or in a money market fund.

$1 billion net worth probably can’t cut a check for $100 million.


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Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
That’s why I inserted that (relative) in there. And the percentage of cash on hand will get lower and lower as net worth goes up.

Example: $1 million net worth and you might keep $100-200k in the bank or in a money market fund.

$1 billion net worth probably can’t cut a check for $100 million.


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Ah, I see!

I mean, there has to be a bank account with "cash", because otherwise his card would be rejected if he attempted to buy anything over the smallest item.

But I'm glad we agree :)
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
Take away the billions in subsidies that Tesla has gotten and none of that would be possible.

Now that you don't get a tax credit for buying a Tesla...their sales have dropped.

Drop in the Bucket.
If your angry about US GOV assisting companies you need to open your eyes and look at ALL companies. Then ask your self this. Do other Countries help their companies? Even provide spies to steal data and technology from US companies? The answer is yes! Yes there are Governments that actually fund corporate spies.

So is it wrong that the US people represented by our GOV not help major employers? Do you really think our US Companies can compete with Chinese GOV backed companies with no US GOV support?
 

Bayou Boy

Adventurer
Loss carry forwards are extremely different from direct subsidies for the products you produce.

But then if you’ve never run a business or don’t know anything about corporate finance...

Loss carry forwards are like a personal tax refund. Subsidies are more like food stamps.



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calicamper

Expedition Leader
Tesla delivered 97000 cars last quarter and is gonna deliver more this quarter.

For people that dont need a truck Their cars are the best deal going right now even without the tax credit.

They’re gonna be around a while.
Most nay sayers get their pantys in a twist when people buy non American stuff too. Funny how Tesla started out selling Mercedes last yr and you don’t see these people whining about the tax deals cut with Mercedes to get their plant in Alabama.
 

Bayou Boy

Adventurer
Most nay sayers get their pantys in a twist when people buy non American stuff too. Funny how Tesla started out selling Mercedes last yr and you don’t see these people whining about the tax deals cut with Mercedes to get their plant in Alabama.

Most of us don’t care what Alabama does with Alabama’s money.

I do care what the Federal Government does with MY money. They invested in a company that can’t turn a profit. It’s a bad investment.


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shade

Well-known member
Once you have enough for emergencies, excess cash loses value every day. Holding it is useless. It’s an asset that should be deployed to do something. Hire people, invest in businesses, or just buy stuff or experiences to make your life more enjoyable.

You will never find someone with a high net worth that just has a (relative) ton of cash on hand and not working somehow.


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This thread is prima facie evidence to support another viable project for Musk Heavy Industries.

 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
Most of us don’t care what Alabama does with Alabama’s money.

I do care what the Federal Government does with MY money. They invested in a company that can’t turn a profit. It’s a bad investment.


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You think Mercedes hasn’t received US gov money? Really?

With your logic no GOV business loans should ever be issued to the highest failure rate businesses. Any guesses what those are?

Ma and PA Restaurants
Those small business loan failures make Tesla look like a hiccup in a kids Lemon aid stand budget.

So its ok to continue to provide a foreign held company tax credits talking decades worth both state and Federal. Mercedes is being out sold 3 to 1 by a new American company that your bent up about because they have legally borrowed money and legally secured State and Federal funding. Just like a foreign held Mercedes has?

Really the question should be. Why do live here in the US? What do you contribute? Besides unbalanced criticism of American Companies using all the financial tools legally made available to them so they can grow and succeed and yes become profitable.

Will Tesla be bought? Probably Elan has repeatedly said he never wanted to make cars! He wanted to elicit change in the Automotive industry. Guess what Ford is building a vehicle that’s basically using Tesla design now!! Hell VW is ALL in!! Also building cars based off of Tesla technology.

In 10 yrs I wouldn’t be surprised if Tesla breaks up simply because the Goal was accomplished. Yep the goal that finally the public gets EVs they can use.
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan

Drop in the Bucket.
If your angry about US GOV assisting companies you need to open your eyes and look at ALL companies. Then ask your self this. Do other Countries help their companies? Even provide spies to steal data and technology from US companies? The answer is yes! Yes there are Governments that actually fund corporate spies.

So is it wrong that the US people represented by our GOV not help major employers? Do you really think our US Companies can compete with Chinese GOV backed companies with no US GOV support?

Yeah, and if we comment on a murderer, we should also mention other murderers, because they did it too. Look up "whataboutism".
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
Most nay sayers get their pantys in a twist when people buy non American stuff too. Funny how Tesla started out selling Mercedes last yr and you don’t see these people whining about the tax deals cut with Mercedes to get their plant in Alabama.
I'm not an American, and I'm from a small country. We don't have much of a car industry here (to put it lightly). Not necessarily disagreeing with you.
 

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