The evolution of "Alpine" Tundra

RoundOut

Explorer
Part VI-C. - Most recent mods - Laptop mount

This one, was started well before our summer trip to NM & CO. I have already made one change, and intend two more changes to it's design. My buddy, Tom used the design and then improved upon it so much, that I am now going to copy him!

Here is someone else's thread where we were building similar laptop mounts.

Since those photos of mine, I have installed a dedicated power adapter and made the top portion removable by installing a "union". This was the first of the "laptop mount envies" that I saw on Tom's.

Tom also had a third flange on the side of the "hump", for added stability. He also used nuts & bolts instead of sheet metal screws to mount it. I am going to do both of these mods to mine soon.

After installing my CB and mentioning to Tom that I would color-match a piece to fill the half hole left by the cigarette lighter, Tom one-upped me and had some paint color-matched at Home Depot to the oak interior of his Land Cruiser. He didn't use much, so he gave it to me to paint mine with. I figure I'll one-up him and air-brush mine, after I finish all the other tweaks. :shakin:

One other tweak I intend to do, is to change the way I have it powered. Right now, the dedicated power adapter is plugged in and on all the time, even when there is no laptop plugged on it (only when the keys are in "accessory" or "run", that is). I want to install a fuse block and switch to turn the power adapter off when not needed.
 
Gary your truck is looking beautiful! :D

A suggestion, try Herculiner instead of Rhino on top of the sliders...it's better traction when wet, just watch the back of your pants legs getting out :p.

That tube notcher is a beast. Looks like a horizontal mill, actually. It's so much easier than using a hole saw...we did mine on a vertical mill, same thing, different direction.
 

RoundOut

Explorer
7wt said:
Nice job RoundOut. Looks really good.

Thanks!


7wt said:
Are you going to get a shell for it?

Nope. As the money tree blooms in my back yard, I was planning on a custom headache rack, but after seeing a short gear rack on another truck here recently, I liked it better. I like the idea of putting up a RTT where it does not add height to the wind profile, i.e. if it is a foot tall, mount it to a rack that is a foot below the roofline.

devinsixtyseven said:
Gary your truck is looking beautiful! :D

Thanks! I really love the look of my new sliders! Thanks a ton for the AWESOME engineering design & advice! I owe you, man!

devinsixtyseven said:
... try Herculiner instead of Rhino on top of the sliders...

Yes I will. In fact, if I said Rhino back there, it was cuz I was too tired. I meant Herculiner.

devinsixtyseven said:
That tube notcher is a beast. Looks like a horizontal mill, actually. It's so much easier than using a hole saw...we did mine on a vertical mill, same thing, different direction.

It was such a cool tool. I could not believe how fast it chewed up the notch. I mean three or four seconds and it was done!
 
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Desertoutpost

Adventurer
RoundOut said:
Let's have it....:chowtime:


Okay, sorry I got side tracked but I'm back...

JBA would stand for John Bittle Associates

John was a car sales man at a for dealership, Drew Ford. While he worked as a sales man he also had a hobby of building really ************** mustangs and racing them. The story goes he became so good at the add on he was making for his race cars ford engineers soon caught wind and started to have a look for themselves. Well as time went on Ford started to contact him directly at the dealership about questions on this and that, and just really start to flame the sales manager. But because this was Ford he couldn't get all over them or John for that fact. He was having his cake and eating it too, Ford would send him prototype parts and he would put his tweek on them and after a few races he would send them back to Ford.

Well as you would almost guess he realized he could do much better at building this stuff then selling cars, (although he was awesome at this too), so he opened up a little shop on Mission Gorge Road in San Diego and stated to make this stuff full time, the rest is history.

**I got this story told to me by the guy who was his sales manager**​
 

crawler#976

Expedition Leader
Nice build up!

If I may suggest, and having experienced it myself, don't use any type of liner product on your sliders. Skate board tape works great for those spots that need a bit of traction. The liner will hold mud and other wet debris and tends to make the back of your pant legs get a wee bit dirtier than without it. Also, if you ever really lean on the slider with a big rock, the liner doesn't hold up real well. I managed to peel off liner on my sliders on the upper side on occasion, but that's not under normal use...I don't think you're gonna run any of the Hammer trails.

Mark
 

RoundOut

Explorer
Rear bumper build

Although my Tough Country "economy" rear bumper has served me well, I am in need of some space under my pickup bed for relocating the two optima batteries. The positioning under the hood of +/-120 pounds that high and far forward, really concerns me. I would like to get my spare out of it's present position and on a swing-out carrier, opening up the space for a battery holder right behind the rear axle. The elimination of both my present hitch and the rear bumper, should make for a near neutral weight transfer, except for the additional weight of the tire carrier. Of course, putting the tire up a bit and farther back will also effect things some, but hopefully it will bring the front up a bit, rather than down, and not have too bad an effect the on the top-heaviness. With the batteries being so heavy and placed 18"-24" lower, that should be a net gain, plus the weight of the vehicle will be much more evenly distributed over both axles.

Here are some of my design ideas:
  • 3"x6" Tubing for the main bumper.
  • Utilize the volume inside the bumper as an air tank.
  • Install +/- 100 watts of extra lighting for backing up or lighting up camp from behind. I have already purchased the lights from Northern Tool.
  • The swing-out tire carrier, obviously.
  • Backup sensors- these have already been ordered from buy.com (Only $50 and no tax or shipping!).
  • Extra heavy duty hitch receiver for holding a tow hitch OR a portable winch.
  • Wrap-around lower, rear fender protection acting as behind-the-tire rock sliders.
  • Rhino-line it to match the front.
I really like Willman's build-up. See that here! I am incorporating many of his design features and a few of my own. I am trying to decide whether to buy the whole swing-out tire carrier section from Schrockworks (it's pretty cool that they are less than 5 miles, or so, from my house) or buy the same hinge assembly that Willman used and build our own.

Anyhow, I am excited that if I can fetch a decent price for my Tough Country rear bumper, I can afford almost all the above and do much of the work myself in advance of getting it welded up.

:jumping: :jumping: :jumping: In fact, I'm REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING STARTED ON THIS IN A COUPLE WEEKS, hopefully!
 
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RoundOut

Explorer
crawler#976 said:
If I may suggest, and having experienced it myself, don't use any type of liner product on your sliders. Skate board tape works great for those spots that need a bit of traction. The liner will hold mud and other wet debris and tends to make the back of your pant legs get a wee bit dirtier than without it. Also, if you ever really lean on the slider with a big rock, the liner doesn't hold up real well.

Good advice, Mark. It would be a bunch cheaper, too! I'll have to noodle on that a while.
 

RoundOut

Explorer
TACODOC said:
Nice build!
That is quite a compliment, coming from you! I have always admired your Taco as one of the finest on ExPo & TS! Thanks.

LaOutbackTrail said:
... Looks nice Gary. When you heading back this direction?
Thanks! I'll be by in the next couple weeks, probably. I'll holler at you when I make plans.

:26_16_2:
 

jim65wagon

Well-known member
Sweet, sweet build. Love the dual batts and sliders. Now if I could talk you and sean into turning over your plans for the sliders and the battery install I could waste my winter not rebuilding the 65 again!
 

upcruiser

Perpetual Transient
Wow, I finally checked out your build, man that really is an impressive setup! Your attention to detail is incredible. Probably bad for me to be tempted by all of these cool things that you've done for your Tundra. I'm trying to keep mine stock but with the excellance of this chasis, it just begs to be used for a greater function. I can't say enough good things about the Tundra. I love it.
 

RoundOut

Explorer
jim65wagon said:
Sweet, sweet build. Love the dual batts and sliders. Now if I could talk you and sean into turning over your plans for the sliders and the battery install I could waste my winter not rebuilding the 65 again!

Waste away after you check your email! Hopefully, Sean won't mind that I forwarded the slider plans to you. LOL

Here are some tips that Sean passed on to me, and that Joey (the guy that fabbed the ladder sections) helped me with.

Joey changed the plans from using 1.6" OD pipe to using 1.5" OD DOM tubing. This is slightly lighter and stronger than the 1.6" OD pipe in Sean's plans.

1. Get the round tubing bent per plans and then cut to length with 5 degree angle on the end, similar to the spreader support.
2. Cut the 1.5" square tubing per plans with 5 degree angle on one end and a notch of the same diameter as your round tubing on the other. The plans call for 14 spreader supports.
3. The spreader supports are tacked to the ladder on 10" centers, beginning from the middle. Use square welding magnets to secure in place for tacking. Measure the next one again after each tack.
4. Lay ladder on comfortable welding surface and finish welding the spreader supports against the round tubing.
5. Measure and cut the 2x2 stringers per plans and cap the ends with plates and finish weld them accordingly.
6. Tack the stringers to the ladder sections' longest spreader supports and then finish weld them all.
7. Cut the 8 forward standoffs (four per side) from 2x2 stock as well. Notch them with a hand-held band saw for best results.
8. Cut two additional standoffs an extra 8 inches long each, and set aside for final assembly. These will become the rear standoffs and be attached at a higher angle than the other 4 per side.
9. From 6" x 1/4" plate, cut 8 pieces 8" long and one piece 12" long. These will become the mounting plates for the stringer standoffs.
10. While vehicle is on a lift, determine the location of each cross-member between the c-channel frame rails. IIRC, there are three between the rear edge of the front tire and the forward edge of the rear tire. Two of the small plates will straddle the front and rear crossmember on each side, and the large plate will straddle the center crossmember, as it is the largest. The front standoff will be mounted almost to the extreme forward end of the stringer in a box-frame area. Many of the plates, especially on the driver's side, will have to be adapted to fit over rivets. I used a 3/4" drill to make sufficient holes to clear the rivets. Using a 3/8" bit, drill four holes on each plate for mounting screws. (Hint: use a drill press with c-clamps to drill all four mounting holes in the 8 uniform plates simultaneously. Hold some cardboard up to the mounting locations to locate rivets and drill out rivet holes on each plate appropriately.
11. Once the rivet holes (3/4") and mounting bolt holes (3/8") are drilled, use some marking paint (we used some flourescent orange) to mark the holes to be drilled in the frame. The bottom holes can be drilled with most hand drills, but it takes time. Use a sharp bit and keep it cool while drilling. There is an art to applying the right amount of pressure and WD-40 coolant. Be patient and don't rush the holes. This is probably the longest single step in the whole install.
12. The top holes in the frame rails will need to be drilled with an angle drill, or cut with a cutting torch. We didn't have an angle drill, so we used the torch. Obviously this has its own set of risks. On the driver's side, there are brake and fuel lines and the fuel tank. It is much less complicated on the passenger side. Be sure to use a spare plate to protect the areas where the cutting torch approaches fuel and brake lines and/or the fuel tank.
13. Once the holes were drilled in the frame, we mounted the plates with 3/8" grade 8 hardware. I found this at Lowes on sale in the bulk bags. The smaller bags (two bolts each) were a rip-off, but the bulk bags with 10 bolts, 20 nuts, or 20 washers were actually on clearance and were a good deal. If some of the holes don't line up, adjust them with a zip-bit or a cutting torch. We adjusted the holes on the mounting plates, not in the frame, but using the torch through the frame hole.
14. Mark a spot on the body by the pinch-weld that corresponds to the forward end of the stringer. Measure the distance from the forward mark to the support centers. Locate the pre-notched supports on the stringers and tack and finish weld them in place.
15. Once the plates are all mounted to the frame, you are ready to tack the rock sliders to the plates. We used a pair of jack stands and shimmed them to be close to the right height. We clamped the extra mounting plates (we have two spares at this point, since we have not located the rear mount yet) to top of the stringer. These will space the slider 1/4" from the lower pinch weld to allow for slight flex without hitting the pinch-weld. Tack the first side in place.
16. Being careful to adjust the angle of the second side to match the first, follow the same procedure as in 15 above and tack the second side.
16A. Choose an appropriate location on the frame to locate the rear support on each side. Mount the final plate to this location after drilling appropriate holes for bolts and rivets.
16B. Using cardboard, mock up a support bracket with the correct angles for the 2x2 supports set aside in #8 above. Mark the 2x2 appropriately and cut the supports with a hand-held band saw or sawzall. Tack in place.
17. Un-bolt the plates and finish weld the supports to the plates.
18. From addional 1/4" plate stock, cut backing plates to be used on the inside of the frame rails. This will prevent the frame from dimpling on the lower bolt locations when the vehicle lands on the sliders. Drill corresponding holes in the plates.
19. Decide what finish you wish to use and prepare the surfaces and apply finish.
20. Mount up and you are ready for some harder core wheeling.

NOTE: I still have not finished step 16A & 16B and therefore forgot to list that step when I first posted these instructions. To prevent rust, I rattle-canned them to get me by until time I build my rear bumper, since we will finish these steps then. I'll be taking some pics of the final assembly once all of it is done.
 
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jim65wagon

Well-known member
Sweet! Thanks Gary. If it bothers Sean at all, I'll just e-mail them back to him! Excellent tips too. Now, if you'll just indulge with pics of them in use!
 

RoundOut

Explorer
De nada!

jim65wagon said:
Sweet! Thanks Gary. If it bothers Sean at all, I'll just e-mail them back to him! Excellent tips too. Now, if you'll just indulge with pics of them in use!

If I thought Sean was going to have a problem with me doing that, I'd never have sent them. I did speak with him about it and he's glad to have helped. Enjoy.

You had also asked about the dual battery build. I already had a write-up on that, along with some other things I did while doing it. Here's the link to the dual battery thread.

I am excited to get to put this vehicle to some use, other than for DD. Can't wait to get some pics out and about, off-pavement.:jumping:
 

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