Thoughts on Off Road Bumpers?

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OK, but to be fair, you've got a 1st gen Taco there, which was the last one to have an actual metal bumper.

The 2nd gen Taco, like the 4th gen 4runner, has a very small "bumper" that is concealed inside a very large plastic "bumper cover" which presents a lot more challenges when mounting a winch or off roading.

Didn't you have a 1st gen Taco at one time? The "metal" on there is rather pathetic...not sure if I would even call it metal...

I really don't like the looks of a bullbar bumper (even though I have one), wish there was one that looked stock but made of a decent gauge steel.
 

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
Didn't you have a 1st gen Taco at one time? The "metal" on there is rather pathetic...not sure if I would even call it metal...

I really don't like the looks of a bullbar bumper (even though I have one), wish there was one that looked stock but made of a decent gauge steel.

Yup, I had an 04 and also a 3rd gen 4runner (99).

And yes, the metal bumpers on those are not terribly stout, but they're much more rugged than the crappy plastic "bumper" (actually a better name is "bumper cover") that was on my 4th gen.


I love the responses from this community. Thanks y'all. I'm still undecided b/c I don't feel too good about adding an extra couple hundred pounds to my 3rd gen 4Runner. Maybe when the holiday sales start happening I'll make the impulse purchase...ha.

I wouldn't say it's "a couple hundred pounds" unless you're talking about something really massive, even with the winch!

And don't forget to subtract the weight of the factory bumper you are removing! They're not heavy but by the time you remove them, the plastic covers and all the other crap, you're talking about at least 30 - 50 lbs depending on the vehicle. When I put my Addicted Off Road tube bumper onto my 3rd gen 4runner, I sold the old one on CL and I seem to recall that the old bumper + the plastic valance panel underneath was at least 40 lbs.

On my 4th gen, the factory "bumper" was maybe 20lbs but I'll bet there was at least another 10-15 lbs of plastic bumper cover, and maybe more than that.

I think an ARB weighs maybe 75 - 90 lbs (not sure) so for a 3rd gen, you're really talking about adding maybe 40lbs net to the front end w/o the winch, or 110 lbs with a 70lb winch (I'm pretty sure the Smittybilt we put on my wife's Jeep was around 70lbs.) 110 lbs isn't "nothing" but it's not huge, either, on a vehicle that tips the scales at nearly 4,000 lbs (IIRC the 3rd gen 4runner's curb weight is around 3800lb.)
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
The bumper that came off my '91 was all chrome plated steel but I'd be surprised if it weighed as much as 40 lbs, but I dunno, maybe if you include the thin stamped chin valance. The ARB I put on was 80 lbs before the winch and probably would have been at least 150 lbs except I used a synthetic winch line and that saves weight. The M8000 is 74 lbs with steel line, which is roughly 15 lbs of that. All-in-all the increase in weight from a bull bar + winch is not insignificant. Typically it's going to be an additional 100 lbs that is mounted such that it creates a fairly decent moment way out front like that. It is worth it to me but I totally understand the reluctance.
 

Herbie

Rendezvous Conspirator
This is in the Toyota forum, but there's two more criteria to consider for a more general audience - cost and availability, and how they go together.

You Toyota guys are spoiled for choices, but this discussion has a whole different scope for someone whose choices are either (a)stick with stock or (b) have something custom built.

On the one hand, when you're going custom you can literally shape the bumper to fit your real needs instead of compromising on something off-the-shelf. On the other hand, you'll probably be paying quite a bit, especially if you want something unusual or exotic. (e.g. I'd really prefer Aluminum because front-end weight is already a factor on my van, but my only choice in that regard - so far - would be to have Aluminess custom-build something for me. Ouch.)

I guess the larger point is that price to performance ratio should be a factor in your process. There are perfect choices and over-kill choices, and maybe "under-kill" choices, and there's a cost with each. The best bumper for you might be one that's a bit heavier than ideal, or not quite as stout for certain uses, but also fits your budget or leaves you resources left over to devote to trips or other gear...
 

Ryanmb21

Expedition Leader
I think an ARB (and Shrockworks) bumpers for the 4th gen are ~130lbs. I went with aluminum, there is more info I previously posted about in the search button.
 

Zam15

Explorer
Mine just paid for itself recently so I am very happy that I made the decision to install one.
 

YotaPilot

Adventurer
Pretty much what most people have said already.

Bumpers for Expedition Travel: http://www.expeditionswest.com/equipment/tacoma/arb_bumper.html

Why fit this heavy bumper?

1. Animal Strike:
The number one reason to buy a bull-bar is to protect the radiator and engine vitals from an animal strike. There is a much greater likelihood of hitting a donkey or deer while on an expedition, than to hit another vehicle. An animal impact can rupture the radiator, damage the fan and break intake components leaving you stranded.
The ARB bullbar is designed to catch and deflect the animals torso, sending the mass of the strike off to the sides or under the chassis.

2. Vehicle Recovery and road repair:
Purchased as a winch bull-bar, the ARB can allow fitment of an electric or hydraulic powered winch. Most often, winches are purchased for the rare event when you will need to recover your vehicle from being stuck. In reality (considering expedition travel and "rock crawling" are quite different), the winch will be used ten times more often for road repair. Clearing felled trees, moving rocks in the road, pulling down washed-out embankments with a land anchor, etc.
Complete album of tree extraction

3. Trail Protection:
Rock impacts, crossing gullies, trees and deep ruts all present the chance of damage to the vehicles front end. A heavy duty, full length bumper is designed to take light trail impacts and also help ramp the front end over obstacles, etc.
In technical 4wd competition, I have found the ARB bumper to also provide "endo" protection.

5. Accident protection:
Driving in crowded cities, remote mountain roads and tight traffic can all be prime situations for an accident. Having a stout bumper will help prevent accidents to start with, as locals will give you a slightly wider berth. If a light impact does occur, the chances of any damage is nil.
This advantage does require some responsibility though. Drive slow and watch for pedestrians.

4. Light and antennae Mounting:
The ARB bumper makes for a great light mount, with integrated holes and tabs. Most models mount the lights inside the main bars, protecting them from damage. It is also common to mount CB or VHF/UHF radio antennae to the upper tab, though the ground plane not ideal.
 
There are ways to mount a winch and retain the factory front bumper, and be confident that the winch mount is way more secure than any aftermarket, bolt-on bumper out there can offer. But it takes a lot of time, effort and fabrication knowledge to achieve such. An aftermarket bolt-on bumper would be an easier route in most cases.


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That's a slick install!

I love it
 

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