Water Bottle Show Down

ThomD

Explorer
I recently noticed that the water from the bottles I use on the bike tasted funny. I tend to use a hodgepodge of bottles gathered over the years. They are generally clear plastic, generic bottles. I realized that if I can taste the “bottle”, I’m drinking some chemicals from the plastic. That can’t be good. Coincidentally, Camel Back now makes an insulated stainless steel bottle, the Better Bottle. I figured it was a good time to make a change. When I went to the store I found that the SS bottle was too large for a standard bottle cage. Fortunately Topeak makes an adjustable bottle cage that will hold the SS bottle - the Modula Cage. While in the store I found that Camel Back also makes insulated plastic bottles – the Podium ChillJacket, challenging Polar, the established king of the insulated bottle market. I don’t use Polar bottles because I find them hard to squeeze on the bike, but Veronica uses them, so we have several in the house. Clearly, it was time for a show down. Could Camelback’s insulated plastic bottle get the best of the reigning king? Could I get the larger SS bottle to fit on my bike? Would the SS bottle be good enough to justify the $30 price vs $12 for the ChillJacket?
Each bottle was cleaned and set on the counter for 30 minutes, with the lid off. The room temperature was approximately 80 degrees. I filled each bottle with 250 ml of water from the refrigerator and enough ice to bring the displaced volume to 450 ml. With the cap on each bottle and the spouts in the closed position, I set the bottles outside in the sun. The outside temperature was 88 degrees F. I noticed that in the few minutes of sitting on the counter while I filled bottles, the outside of the Polar bottle became cool to the touch.

After 30 minutes, all the bottles reported the same water temperature: 34 F. There was still a lot of ice in each bottle, but the SS bottle clearly had more ice left. The outside of the SS bottle was warm from the sun, while the plastic bottles were cool.

After 75 minutes (total time), the water in the ChillJacket was 44 F, with a small ice cube left. The Polar bottle water temp was 51 F, with no ice. The SS bottle water temp was 34 F, with a lot of ice left.

After 2 hours (total time), the temperature of the water in the Polar bottle was 74 F, the plastic Camelbak temperature was 70 F and the SS bottle temperature was 34F with a lot of ice remaining. The bottles remained in the sun the entire time, while the air temperature dropped to 85 F.

Clearly the SS water bottle is the best solution for keeping your water cold. However, it is a heavy bottle. If you care about bike weight, you can probably just skip this part. The Polar bottle weighs 4.8 oz, 134 grams. The plastic Camelbak weighs 3.7 oz, 104 grams. The SS bottle weighs a whopping 13.9 oz, 394 grams. Considering that it is essentially two bottles because of the double walled construction, this is not surprising.

After I measured the final temperatures we did a taste test. The SS bottle did not impart any flavor to the water. Since the temperature was so much lower than the water from the plastic bottles we compared those two separately. The water from the Polar was OK, until you compared it to the plastic Camelbak. Side by side, it was easy to detect a distinct plastic flavor to the water from the Polar and no flavor from the plastic Camelbak. In reality all the water had a very slight “ice cube freezer” flavor, but the water from the Polar had an additional taste from the plastic.

The Modula cage fit easily on my bike, but I might not be able to get two SS bottles on the bike. I don’t think that is a problem, because the plastic Camelbak did an OK job for about an hour. I’ll try riding with the ChillJacket as my first bottle and the SS bottle as the second bottle, that way I’ll have cold water later in the ride.
 

Life_in_4Lo

Explorer
I use the Polar 24oz insulated bidon for cycling. it's fine.
incidentally, all plastic cycle bidons taste like plastic when new. you can clean them w/ lemon water or a bit of vinegar mix to get rid of that. LDPE is considered a safe plastic.
All cycling bidons are LDPE.

i've noticed new ss bidons taste like metal at first so i just clean everything before first use. I never use it for cycling because it's heavy, can't squeeze it, can seriously hurt someone if you ride with other people.
I do use them for trips all the time.
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
I saw the type you can freeze at my bike dealer where I just got my new bike a few weeks back.
I opted for two aluminum ones that are pretty much built like my Kleen Kanteens (SS) I bought for work.

Here are the two cages I got.
Specialized Rib Cage Pro
Fox Encore Water Bottle white

To be honest, I am not sure if the alloy ones are good or not.
I amy look into other too, but I was told by some MTB friends to go with a two liter hydration pack which is best for mountain biking, as you drain the water bottles to fast.

I have an old REI one from around 2003 that I have never used, will be testing it out on my vacation this coming week.
 

Vermejo

Adventurer
https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emergency_supplies/aquamira_water_bottle_and_filter.htm
You can fill them in a creek without worrying about the water quality. I'll never buy anythng else.

Thanks for the link. Simple & inexpensive for those of us that travel light.

"The Aquamira Microbiological Filter is a special thick-walled "porous plastic" filter designed to provide greater effectiveness than common thin-walled fiber filters. The tiny intricate pathways in the filter trap 99.9% of harmful Giardia, Cryptosporidium and other pathogens"

It looks like it will fit some of the other Nalgene bottles I have that are bigger.
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
I ordered at leat 400 Camelbak Chill Jacket bottles for the store this spring and anticipate a re-order very soon. Great little bottles. I'm one of those cyclists that goes through lots of bottles so the low cost of the Chill Jackets is nice. The camelback bottles aren't ideal for mountain biking as the nipple collects dirt in a big way, but it's manageable. They also squeeze much better than the Polar Bottles.
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
For you hydration pack peeps, don't buy anything new until 2010 when the new Osprey Hydraulics systems are released. Osprey paired up with Nalgene to create what I think might be one of the best hydration systems in years. The packs won't come in too many sizes, but they will be beautiful. The hydration bladders look to be the best yet. First ships are available in January.
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Hmmmm, Googled it, but I had to type in hydration, not hydraulics :D
http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/news/article/mps/uan/6197
http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/news/article/mps/uan/6238

I may have to pick one up.

Here is my pack, an REI one I got there for Christmas of 2002 when I worked there part time during a Boeing layoff.
Never used it until today when I washed out the two liter bladder and filled it up to test it out.
Bladder is by Nalgene.

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PS, the mountain bike version of the packs in the URLs above is called the Raptor.

osprey201003.jpg
 
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TCM

Adventurer, Overland Certified OC0006
I use standard cycling bidons from Elite for road cycling and usually a bladder system for mountain biking. I must be used to the taste because I never even notice it. I guess 20 years of cycling will do that to you.
 

Howard70

Adventurer
You might avoid the SS or any other hard bottle if you ride on the road with large packs of other riders. Drop a SS bottle and have a rider behind you hit it and go down isn't a good situation. A plastic bottle can cause a crash but usually it flattens enough when hit to heep the bike up.

I've found that plastic bottles lose the taste as long as I clean new ones with vinegar or lemon and never leave water in them.

Howard Snell
 

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