CORDSIG79
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where are the Porsche cayenne expo builds?
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GroupSe7en
Adventurer
Oh man, as it turns out, what was needed, was to remove the gauge cluster, unplug it, replug it, and reinstall it!
UNBELIEVABLE!
Works like a charm now.
I keep meaning to test the battery, but I'm a bit afraid to.
I'd like to go a week or two without having to fix something!
What tires are you guys running?
Man you guys sure are making this sound like a fun car to own.....:coffeedrink:
I used to own an 05 T-Reg and I loved it!!! I know that its very similar to the Pepperwagon, so there should be no problems off roading it! I never got stuck. The air suspension helped out with that one!! I had to sell it when gas hit $5 a gallon out here in California. I miss it dearly. I want another one. I think I am going to replace the wifes car(she is due, and next in line to get a new car) with a Pepperwagon, and I will just "borrow" it A LOT!!!
Cole
Expedition Leader
Not extensively enough. Most of that is available from the factory and almost all of the Tour-egg aftermarket stuff fits a Cayenne.
I suppose this depends on your idea of a "zillion dollars" Some stuff is expensive, but some stuff is much much cheaper than you would think.
Perception vs reality seems like more of the issue.
No offense, but you suck at searching. You can find very very nice sub $20K Cayennes all day long. Depreciation is a wonder thing for those of us that want a nice rig and can wait a few years to get it.
...So why not pick up a well engineered Porsche? Reliability?
Stereotype much? Go find some local Porsche guys and I think you will be surprised. Sure, there are those that buy them new for image. But most of them are hardcore motorheads that have discovered the amazing Porsche performance and reliability can be had for pennies on the dollar when shopping for used ones.
Haha......I've actually been around the 4 wheeling community long before I bought my Porsche Cayenne. (for WAY less money than my last Jeep:sombrero
Factory dual batteries, factory air suspension, Tow package, Factory OBA system for filling tires! You guys should crawl under one some time and look at the size of the frame, transfer case and transmission. MUCH MUCH beefier stuff than anything of similar size comes with from the factory.
The factory tow points are the frame rails in the front. It would be VERY easy to build a winch plate, receiver mount, etc for this. You can mount any Thule or Yakima set up straight to the factory roof rails. 265/65R18s fit stock. BFG makes the mud TA in this size FWIW. That is what the Transsyberia rigs ran. I have yet to see any factory rig of any kind that comes with all this stuff stock. It all has to be built and added on.
I have planned on more offroad fun with my Cayenne, but have just been having too much fun with my motorcycles the last few years.
I think with some slight mods it would be a fine rig for light trails. Obviously not a full on crawler. If you removed the front lower plastic dam you would have a decent approach angle. Put on some 265s, factory or custom fabbed rockers and skids and it would be okay.
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Cole
Expedition Leader
?????? Who is angry? You?
Cole
Expedition Leader
I'll toss some extra info into this thread for anyone interested.
The common issues with the Cayenne are really not a big deal and there really are few.
The 03-06 Cayennes had plastic coolant pipes that ran under the intake manifold. They would tend to get brittle and crack. This is the only real issue that would leave a Cayenne on the side of the road. All the other common things will still let you get home.
The cure for the plastic coolant pipes is an aluminum set. They cost about $500 and its an easy DIY job. Most any Cayenne with 60K or more miles on it at this point has probably had the upgrade.
People complain about "electrical issues". The cayenne (like any modern car really) runs on electronics. It's designed to do one thing over everything else.....GET YOU HOME! So as the battery ages and gets low the car starts to show weird electrical issues, especially in the dual battery Cayennes. One battery is designed to ONLY start the car and the other runs all the electronics. So often times people kill off one battery and don't think there is a battery issue because the car starts and runs fine. Cars with dual batteries also tend to have the keyless entry and drive option. Which is really cool because it comes with a dummy key insert that you start the car with while the real key lives in your pocket. What you need to note about the system is that the dummy insert and the real key use different batteries to start the car. So if for some reason you come out to a dead battery, you simply swap keys and it will start the car with the other battery. (how many of your expo rigs have that stock?)
All the air suspension Cayennes come with an on board air set up, two air tanks and a hose/gauge set up for filling tires. Just pull out the hose and plug it into the fitting by the passengers feet. (I had to build all that into my last two Jeeps).
Coils! Every German car I have ever had gets cracked coil issues. I have replaced mine once and now have 100K on my CTT.
Lower control arm bushings. I replaced mine at about 80K with Turbo S arms. They have a more robust bushing in them. Cost was about $250 for each arm.(two total). Super easy DIY. These things are robust. You could probably drag them on rocks as much as you want.
Rear drive shaft rubber bushing wears out. There are some aftermarket options now. Easy to fix for $80-500 depending on the route you chose. Driveshaft is very protected from rocks. But if you toasted the bushing on the trail then you could easily remove it, just like any Jeep, Toy, etc. Its not a slip-yoke set up so the Tcase is not going to leak when removed.
The common issues with the Cayenne are really not a big deal and there really are few.
The 03-06 Cayennes had plastic coolant pipes that ran under the intake manifold. They would tend to get brittle and crack. This is the only real issue that would leave a Cayenne on the side of the road. All the other common things will still let you get home.
The cure for the plastic coolant pipes is an aluminum set. They cost about $500 and its an easy DIY job. Most any Cayenne with 60K or more miles on it at this point has probably had the upgrade.
People complain about "electrical issues". The cayenne (like any modern car really) runs on electronics. It's designed to do one thing over everything else.....GET YOU HOME! So as the battery ages and gets low the car starts to show weird electrical issues, especially in the dual battery Cayennes. One battery is designed to ONLY start the car and the other runs all the electronics. So often times people kill off one battery and don't think there is a battery issue because the car starts and runs fine. Cars with dual batteries also tend to have the keyless entry and drive option. Which is really cool because it comes with a dummy key insert that you start the car with while the real key lives in your pocket. What you need to note about the system is that the dummy insert and the real key use different batteries to start the car. So if for some reason you come out to a dead battery, you simply swap keys and it will start the car with the other battery. (how many of your expo rigs have that stock?)
All the air suspension Cayennes come with an on board air set up, two air tanks and a hose/gauge set up for filling tires. Just pull out the hose and plug it into the fitting by the passengers feet. (I had to build all that into my last two Jeeps).
Coils! Every German car I have ever had gets cracked coil issues. I have replaced mine once and now have 100K on my CTT.
Lower control arm bushings. I replaced mine at about 80K with Turbo S arms. They have a more robust bushing in them. Cost was about $250 for each arm.(two total). Super easy DIY. These things are robust. You could probably drag them on rocks as much as you want.
Rear drive shaft rubber bushing wears out. There are some aftermarket options now. Easy to fix for $80-500 depending on the route you chose. Driveshaft is very protected from rocks. But if you toasted the bushing on the trail then you could easily remove it, just like any Jeep, Toy, etc. Its not a slip-yoke set up so the Tcase is not going to leak when removed.
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jluck
Adventurer
Um....nope. I didnt come out swinging in this thread either. And if you look I started it as I will get one of these rigs someday, cuz well I like them. I will accept them with there stigma and problems. But for some reason the stigma that cocks own them seems true sometimes from what I have saw.
Cole
Expedition Leader
Are you calling me a cock?
Nobody came out swinging here! I saw that you started it and posted facts to help. All I did was take a few quotes and add some information.....sounds like what happens on a forum!!
Show me where specifically I was a cock...I known I pointed out that some have obviously not done the research they claimed to have done, but that is a fact!
The information is out there and easy to find.
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I feel very weird saying something nice here...cause the title implied was 'where are all the Cayenne builds' and so far there really are none outside pro rally guys.Are you calling me a cock?
Nobody came out swinging here! I saw that you started it and posted facts to help. All I did was take a few quotes and add some information.....sounds like what happens on a forum!!
Show me where specifically I was a cock...I known I pointed out that some have obviously not done the research they claimed to have done, but that is a fact!
The guy did not say you are C**k! He said that there was a stigma that only C**ks owned them. You are the only one taking it personally.
I think he is absolutely right about that stigma. Take a popular joke as an example ..... Whats the difference between a porcupine and a Porsche owner? ......In the a Porsche the prick's on the inside.:coffeedrink:
Cole
Expedition Leader
Nobody took anything personally. I have gone back and reread my post several times and I will stick to it. Maybe I should have just used more smilies! :sombrero:
You guys have taken this way to seriously. I have put more than a million miles on built Jeeps, owned and built Dodges, Chevy and Nissan off road rigs. Even donated a build to the offroad community! (trail clena up truck)
Come in here, make few factual comments with a few quotes and all of the sudden I'm a Porsche prick!:Wow1: I think you guys are the ones that have gotten all out of whack on this topic. A few straight comments and everyone is bent out of shape.
You guys have taken this way to seriously.
I have put more than a million miles on built Jeeps, owned and built Dodges, Chevy and Nissan off road rigs. Even donated a build to the offroad community! (trail clena up truck) Come in here, make few factual comments with a few quotes and all of the sudden I'm a Porsche prick!:Wow1: I think you guys are the ones that have gotten all out of whack on this topic. A few straight comments and everyone is bent out of shape.
I really hope this is dry humor on your part! My gosh man no one called you a prick.Nobody took anything personally. I have gone back and reread my post several times and I will stick to it. Maybe I should have just used more smilies! :sombrero:
You guys have taken this way to seriously.
Come in here, make few factual comments with a few quotes and all of the sudden I'm a Porsche prick!:Wow1: I think you guys are the ones that have gotten all out of whack on this topic. A few straight comments and everyone is bent out of shape.
Take a slow deep breath and reread the stuff and you will see that no insults were made concerning you.
If you come back and say we called you a slow breather I'm done. :sombrero:
mhiscox
Expedition Leader
Good points; hold those thoughts . . .
...So why not pick up a well engineered Porsche? Reliability?
That survey--which examines performance of 2009 vehicles--certainly shows a good result for Porsche. However, given your encouragement to look for an older one, the year-by-year problem area reports from Consumer Reports might be of even greater use . . .
Credit: Consumer Reports, April 2009
. . . and might help explain the unwashed masses' perception of less-than-stellar reliability. (Which is not to ignore your mentions of the ways you personally know of to make them tolerably reliable.)
