Jeeptrip Pete
Observer
Superwinch has large winches up to 18,000 lbs electrics that come with synthetic rope. It's a big 1/2" rope on that 18,000 lb unit. :Wow1:
winch wars
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verdesardog
Explorer
Push LOLOL no, but what if you have to lower a vehicle for some reason......? It is a valid question.
Warn Industries
Supporting Vendor
Unfortunately, there isn't a cut-and-dry answer for this. It depends on the load, and of course, the winch's capacity.
- Andy
I Leak Oil
Expedition Leader
I know, I'm just busting your stones.
I had a winch solenoid fail pulling in before. (Winching theorists block your ears now) I freewheeled the line out all the way, reversed the winch winding the line over the top and pulled the truck out with the winch in reverse. It really never got hot and didn't do any damage. It was a one time deal so if you plan on lowering vehicles all the time, a brake in drum unit probably isn't for you. If you plan on doing a LOT of winching, a recreational winch isn't for you either, brake in drum or not.
verdesardog
Explorer
That's exactly why I have a hydraulic winch on my truck.....
verdesardog
Explorer
Sorry but that's a piss poor answer. Many years ago I had an 8k Warn winch, powered out one length of wire (80') with no load. totaled the brake and turned the winch into an always free spool unit.
I hope the newer units are made differently than the ones 15 years ago. I had to buy new internals (over $100) that were supposed to handle that situation but I never tried it agian.
It seems like the manufacturers should know thier unit's capabilities.
verdesardog
Explorer
You must mean 5 wraps left after lowering, you couldnt lower far with only 5 wraps in the drum......
Warn Industries
Supporting Vendor
Our M8000 manual says, "Do not power out rope more than 30' without allowing the winch to cool for 20 min. before powering rope back in."
With regards to duty cycle, due to differences in ambient air temp, battery connections, and such, it's hard to come up with consistent full-load duty cycle numbers, which is why I am unable to give you a better answer on this.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with one of our winches. I hope we can earn your business back sometime.
- Andy
verdesardog
Explorer
That's a better answer, thank you.
The mile marker hydraulic that I have had for over 15 years will probably be the last winch I will ever have to buy.
Wh1t3nukle
I gotz dis
So at that time there was no warranty coverage?
This is confusing. I don't think comparing experiences helps that much as there are numerous variables involved with usage of X winch and Y vehicles. What is useful is knowing winch brand, rating, line type/size, and operation method. Operation method can be broken down further by multiple powering in/out or free spool cycles (#times done). Oh yeah and environment. I've seen plenty of people hook up their line and STILL try to drive out while the line is slack. It's like, "hi, let the winch get taught and do the work. It's not a good idea to shock load it."
98dango
Expedition Leader
I can give you a list of specs on winches. However specs on paper don't mean much. On paper the combustion engine dose not work yet you drive it every day. In my life what works is more important than the name on it or what the paper said.
I Leak Oil
Expedition Leader
Not if the manual says 30 feet and he spooled out 80 feet. Assuming it was all at once.
verdesardog
Explorer
It was well after the warranty period and there was no mention of powering out in the manual at that time....I do read the manuals with all my equipment. If you don't know your equipment you will break it or injure your self!