WreckDiver1321's 2003 Frontier CC SC

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
Sorry for the lack of updates, so much has happened. As I've said, I installed the OME springs and was a bit disappointed at the amount of lift, but it all got worked out. My new shackles are on the way. :)

Now, as for the install. I ordered all the suspension parts from AC, and got them about ten days later. I didn't actually realize that I had ordered OME Dakars until I opened the boxes. AC doesn't make that clear on their page. However, I was really pleased when I found out they were OMEs. I also had to buy a bushing kit to use them, because they are actually Hardbody springs. First step is to install the bushings. I've been told by many that it's a good idea to really grease Energy Suspension bushings because they have a bad habit of getting creaky and squeaky. I very liberally applied grease to the bushings, spring eyes, and the metal sleeves. Installation is pretty self-explanatory.







Once that was done, I jacked up the truck, set the hitch down on some jack stands, and took the wheels off. I then dropped the axle down and began pulling off U-bolts. When doing this, it's a good idea to unbolt the ABS cable at the drums, and at the bracket attached to the upper U-bolt bracket. This will give a lot more room when removing and installing the springs, and it will keep from ripping them apart.







After the U-bolts were off, I could remove the upper U-bolt bracket.



I was able to remove the bottom U-bolt plate, but the shocks refused to come off. Honestly, I didn't try that hard because I didn't have shocks to replace them. So I left them.



At that point, I unbolted the rear shackles and the front mounting bolts, so I could slide the springs right out.





Then it's a simple matter of slipping the new springs into place and bolting everything down again. When I finished, I drove out of the garage to take some measurements. The new springs lifted the back end up an inch, and after driving around on them, beating them up, it seems to be staying that way. Since the height difference wasn't that much, I just cranked the torsion bars a bit instead of reindexing. It actually didn't affect the alignment at all, which was nice.

Finished product pics soon!
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
So here's the before/after difference. It's almost unnoticeable, but there is about an inch of height gained. And, as you can probably tell, I also took the opportunity to remove the factory running boards.

Before:



After:



Before:



After:

 

skibum315

Explorer
Even just removing the running boards makes it look a bit taller. Looks like you're getting it headed the direction you want, so well done there.

I had to chuckle that stoic posted the pic & comment about Penski's truck (post #31) ... his is one of my favorite early gen Frontier builds for sure, even if it is a crazy truggy by now; and it always pops into my head when I see one of these trucks running around.
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
Looking good!

Thanks, I'm excited to have the suspension where I want it!

Agreed. Definitely noticeable. I can't remember if you mentioned your plans for tires?

I'm going to stick with 265/75R16s, and right now the top contenders are GY DuraTracs, GY Authoritys (WalMart knockoff of the DuraTrac), Toyo MTs, BFG Rugged Terrains, or Kelly TSRs. No solid plans yet, but I'm thinking it will end up being one of the Goodyear options.

Even just removing the running boards makes it look a bit taller. Looks like you're getting it headed the direction you want, so well done there.

I had to chuckle that stoic posted the pic & comment about Penski's truck (post #31) ... his is one of my favorite early gen Frontier builds for sure, even if it is a crazy truggy by now; and it always pops into my head when I see one of these trucks running around.

Thanks, it's been slow going but I'm getting there. Right now heavily considering tire options, then it'll be a little bit till I can move forward so my bank account can recover! Once I get the rear suspension sorted, then I can go ahead and get the front re-indexed and install the HD stuff.

I love that Frontier build, as nuts as it is. Gives me a lot of faith in the durability of these trucks.
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
Good choice on the size. We have something very similar to the GY authoritys here in Canada. They sell them at Canadian Tire and they are called GY Wrangler Territory.
 

stioc

Expedition Leader
It looks perfect, there's something about tastefully lifted (2-3") with 31-33" tires, subtle, purposeful and fewer negative side-effects. It'd be interesting to see which tires you end up with. So many good options these days really you can't go wrong, just pick the right tire for the right terrain/weather.
 

duckhunter71

Adventurer
I've been gone for a while apparently. Here's another compliment for ya - the truck looks great! I like your tire size and choice. I'm not big on the stuffed wheel well look and I think yours will be just right!
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
I've been gone for a while apparently. Here's another compliment for ya - the truck looks great! I like your tire size and choice. I'm not big on the stuffed wheel well look and I think yours will be just right!

Thanks!

So, a bit of a change in plans. I've spent the past few days calling and visiting tire shops and crapping my pants at prices. I was originally putting heavy consideration on Wal-Mart Goodyear Authority ATs. Then I went in for a closer look and discovered they are a 2-ply sidewall, which felt very thin and flimsy under my fingers. This was a bit of a problem.

Then three things happened. One, I remembered Co-Opski's summer tires were 235/85s. I kind of like the tall and skinny look, and it seems to work well for the Frontier. After a bit of searching, I found out that tires in that size generally run much cheaper than the 265/75s. Two, I found a tire shop that had some realistic prices and a good selection. The girl behind the counter kindly helped me run through some good options. Three, while this was happening, I discovered Hercules tires. Hercules tires are actually made n the US by Cooper, so their quality is not in doubt (to me). The sidewalls feel much more stout than the Authoritys. They have two tread patterns that are really nice and exactly what I'm looking for. Now it's down to figuring out which to get.

The one I'm leaning most towards is the Terra Trac D/T. This is a really deep tread all terrain that has a few elements that make it stand out.
Price: $193/tire
Deep tread with large voids
Aggressive shoulder blocks
Aggressive all terrain tread that handles on and off road conditions equally well.



The other is a more aggressive MT type tire called the Trail Digger M/T.
Price: $192/tire
More aggressive design and look
Larger voids
Better for trail conditions



Both are very close to a true 32", the D/T is 31.9" and the M/T is 31.8". The Trail Digger is cheaper by $1/tire, funnily enough, and has been proven to be a tough, reliable tire that offers tons of traction. Both tires weigh the same, both can be studded, both are load range E, both have the same tread depth.

Thoughts?
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
I really like the 235 85 size, had awesome success with it, especially this last week. Unless you expect really deep snow or mud, a skinnier tire will provide better traction in just about any other situation

I hadn't seen that D/T before. Has a really nice old school solid look about it.
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
I really like the 235 85 size, had awesome success with it, especially this last week. Unless you expect really deep snow or mud, a skinnier tire will provide better traction in just about any other situation

I hadn't seen that D/T before. Has a really nice old school solid look about it.

That's good to know. A lot of guys running expo style rigs opt for the skinnier tires and they work out quite well, so I'm pretty confident they will do well on my Frontier.

The thing I keep thinking about is I honestly like the look of the M/T more, but I think the D/T would be more practical, since the truck is a DD as well as on expo duty.
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
That's good to know. A lot of guys running expo style rigs opt for the skinnier tires and they work out quite well, so I'm pretty confident they will do well on my Frontier.

The thing I keep thinking about is I honestly like the look of the M/T more, but I think the D/T would be more practical, since the truck is a DD as well as on expo duty.

Load Range E with higher strength/ply sidewalls is nice is rocky terrain as well

Its always a tough call between the AT/MT, but that is the advantage of the STT and GY Duratrac, but they also come at a cost
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
Its always a tough call between the AT/MT, but that is the advantage of the STT and GY Duratrac, but they also come at a cost

This is true. But I have to admit, after seeing the D/T up close, I can honestly say this is one of the most aggressive AT type tires I have ever seen. Tread pattern looks like a cross between a BFG AT and Cooper ST.
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
This is true. But I have to admit, after seeing the D/T up close, I can honestly say this is one of the most aggressive AT type tires I have ever seen. Tread pattern looks like a cross between a BFG AT and Cooper ST.

They do look aggressive from the website. Nice voids which will help clear mud if it gets a little sticky. I really like the tread pattern.
 

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