Big Bear Meet,Greet and Wheel May 19th and 20th

[teotwaki]

Updated Plans from first post

This is the official planning thread for the 2007 SoCal Meet and Greet

Saturday morning we will meet at the Discovery Center parking lot at 9 AM. Some I Hate Mud folks may do a Drive Buy Ogling of our rigs. You must have the "Adventure Tax", I mean Adventure Pass in your posession so that the group is not delayed by any USFS LEOs. $5/day in the Adventure Center.

http://www.bigbeardiscoverycenter.com/

Communications:

CB Channel 4 unless otherwise discussed; FRS radios channel 4 tone 4.

Off Roading:

Saturday

1. Gold Mountain trail 3N69
The Southern entrance off Hwy 18 is N34° 16.418 W116° 49.170.
The Northern entrance off 3N16 is N34° 17.942 W116° 50.232.
Lat/lon format is hddd mm.mmm and WGS84 datum

This is the official planning thread for the 2007 SoCal Meet and Greet
(I will update this first post and the second with details as things develop)

Saturday morning we will meet at the Discovery Center parking lot at 9 AM. You must have the "Adventure Tax", I mean Adventure Pass in your posession.

http://www.bigbeardiscoverycenter.com/

Communications:

CB Channel 4 unless otherwise discussed; FRS radios channel 4/ code 4

Off Roading:

Saturday

1. Gold Mountain trail 3N69
The Southern entrance off Hwy 18 is N34° 16.418 W116° 49.170.
The Northern entrance off 3N16 is N34° 17.942 W116° 50.232.
Lat/lon format is hddd mm.mmm and WGS84 datum

Go South to North on Gold Mountain, come out of Gold Mountain (3N69) go left on the main road (3N16) a short ways, right on 3N02, possibly go all the way up to the Mohawk Mine (dead end) and have lunch, then back down to do the first moderate piece of John Bull (3N10) and then anyone (like me) could bail out at the 3N32 junction (back down to 3N16) before the more difficult part of John Bull.

If we have lots of time then we can attempt some other trails or take it easy

Sunday:

1. ? plans up to the campers who will be there

Other Available Trails:

HISTORICAL TRAIL (3N16) - Easy
HOLCOMB CREEK TRAIL (3N93 - 2N06X LOOP) - Moderate
ONYX SUMMIT TRAIL 2N61 T0 2N70) - Moderate
JOHN BULL TRAIL (3N69 TO 3N10) - Difficult
PILOT ROCK/SILVERWOOD LAKE (2N17X) - Difficult
WHITE MOUNTAIN TRAIL (3N17) - Difficult

and here: http://www.socalbroncos.net/bbbb

Camping is available at:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/recreation/camping/index.shtml
map:http://www.bigbeardiscoverycenter.com/images/campmap.pdf

• Big Pine Flat
7 miles NW of Fawnskin on Forest Road 3N14
Elevation: 6,800 / Spaces: 17 / Water: yes / Spur Length: 30'
Season: May 15th to October 18th /
No Reservations Required.

• Hanna Flat
2-1/2 miles NW of Fawnskin on Forest Road 3N14
Elevation: 7,000 / Spaces: 88/ Water: yes / Spur Length: 40'
Season: May 15th to October 18th /

• Holcomb Valley
4 miles N on 2N09 to 3N16 E (right), continue on 3N16 3/4 mile
Elevation: 7,400 / Spaces: 19 / Water: no / Spur Length: 25'
Season: Year-'round /
No Reservations Required.

• Horse Springs
12 miles NW of Fawnskin on Forest Road 3N14
Elevation: 5,800 / Spaces: 11 / Water: no / Spur Length: 25'
Season: Year-'round (weather permitting) /
No Reservations Required.

• Pine Knot
S on Summit Blvd. to Bristlecone, left 1/4 mile to campground
Elevation: 7,000 / Spaces: 48/ Water: yes / Spur Length: 45'
Season: May 1st to October 17th

• Serrano
N Shore Lane off Hwy. 38, about 2 miles E of Fawnskin
Elevation: 6,800 / Spaces: 132 / Water: yes / Spur Length: 55'
Season: April 1st to November 30th

USFS Rangers' Offices

Arrowhead Ranger District
28104 Hwy. 18
Skyforest, California 92385
Telephone: (909) 337-2444

Big Bear Ranger District
P.O. Box 290
Fawnskin, California 92333
Telephone: (909) 866-3437,3438,3439

San Gorgonio Ranger District
34701 Mill Creek Rd.
Mentone, California 92359
Telephone: (909) 794-1123

WEATHER

http://www.hamweather.net/cgi-bin/hw3/hw3.cgi?config=&forecast=zandh&pands=92314

 

[wesel123]

I think I'll save that for another run, starting from Arrowhead. Some of us are only planning on one day so I will stick to the current plan as something achieveable and enjoyable by all.

Once again I second that motion.

 

[teotwaki]

if I can arrange to stay late, after folks have set up their campsites, this looks like a fun and easy night run. Description courtesy of the SoCal Bronco site at: http://www.dustyland.net/socalbroncos/bbbb/trails.html

Saturday Night Lights
TRAIL: Butler Peak Fire Lookout
DAY: Saturday
STAGE SITE: TBD
RUN LEADER: TBD

DESCRIPTION: This night run consists of a quick, easy trail with a spectacular payoff at the end. The ride to Butler Peak is a fairly easy dirt road, but shear dropoffs along part of the route add to the thrills. At the end of the trail is a short walk up to the lookout tower on top of Butler Peak. This is the top of the world, with 360 degree views of the Inland Empire to the south, the LA megatropolis to the west, the high desert cities to the north, and Arrowhead and Big Bear closer by on either side. All of this is lit up in spectacular night lights. The Butler Peak night run is not to be missed!

 

[teotwaki]

Everyone who is going should post what kind of radio they have.

I have FRS, CB, commercial UHF & .VHF handhelds, and a cranky old dual band ham handheld.

If we all can have a common radio that is all I am trying to achieve.

BUMP!:exclaim: :exclaim:

I would also like to make sure everyone has recovery gear and am curious if there are any rigs with a winch

Saturday:

1. Jim (Teotwaki) 2005 SR5 4WD 4Runner
2. Ian (Wesel123) 2004 V8 4Runner Sport 4wd
3. Erik (Desertbound) 2000 Nissan Xterra
4. Rob (RobTheBrit) Unimog
5. Paul (Roverholic) some sort of Range Rover?
6. Richard (Rmarz) 05 Jeep Rubicon LJ
7. Chris (ujointclothing) '06 E350

Sunday:
1. Rob (RobTheBrit) Unimog
2. Mike (Wanderer) 94 XJ
3. Richard (Rmarz) 05 Jeep Rubicon LJ
4. Chris (ujointclothing) '06 E350
5. Ron (Ronb) Big RED H-1

 

[wesel123]

I'm installing my ARB bumper with an M8000 tommarrow. What else do you want us to bring in reguards to recovery equipment??

I plan on bringing:
Hi-lift
ARB Tire Patch Kit
Compressor
Tools
Sand Ladders
Axe/Shovel


Cant think of anything else you would want.

Heck now that I think about it. Who needs all of that When there's a handy dandy Uni coming along!!!!!

 

[teotwaki]

I'm installing my ARB bumper with an M8000 tommarrow. What else do you want us to bring in reguards to recovery equipment??

I plan on bringing:
Hi-lift
ARB Tire Patch Kit
Compressor
Tools
Sand Ladders
Axe/Shovel

Cant think of anything else you would want.

Heck now that I think about it. Who needs all of that When there's a handy dandy Uni coming along!!!!!

Thanks! I just want to see who is equipped, even if it is mostly shiny new like mine. :jumping: On my second Gold Mountain trip when one guy had a flat at the rock shelf, he had a lifted vehicle with a winch but had no Hi Lift jack. The first Hi Lift brought over was old and not maintained and it stuck in the lifted position. The second jack brought over was SO new that the paper instructions rolled up in the handle fell out when we jacked the truck up to extract the first jack. We had a lot of good laughs over all of that but it was good that we had enough gear in the group to help each other.

I have:

48" Hi Lift (no instructions in the handle but pretty shiny!)
plastic base plate
various Hi Lift goodies and winch stuff in a kit
slider adaptor
recovery strap
extra shackle
tree saver strap
tow rope
hydraulic bottle jack
tire repair stuff
air compressor
shovel, axe, bow saw and sometimes a prybar
hitch shackle in the towing receiver

I am still waiting to find out if folks have two way radios!

 

[Ron B]

Hi Jim,
I'm hoping I can come join in the fun for at least one of the days. I'd like to do John Bull again -- just finished up a complete suspension over-haul and need to test it on some rock-hopping. 2N17X and Dishpan are always fun too. Looking forward to meeting my neighbor Rob and seeing the Mog wheel. If my fat but will fit, I think his will too!

ron b

 

[Roverholic]

Hey guys,
I have a winch and all the recovery gear even though we won't need any of it:victory:
See you all Sat AM!

 

[teotwaki]

Hi Jim,
I'm hoping I can come join in the fun for at least one of the days. I'd like to do John Bull again -- just finished up a complete suspension over-haul and need to test it on some rock-hopping. 2N17X and Dishpan are always fun too. Looking forward to meeting my neighbor Rob and seeing the Mog wheel. If my fat but will fit, I think his will too!

ron b

Hope that you can make it! I know that there are some other tentative folks who can't commit until the last minute. I think after this the San Diego "crowd" should organize a meet and greet and possibly some of us can drive down to that one too.

 

[\\'anderer]

I am still waiting to find out if folks have two way radios!

CB radio (NEW)

Dual band HT

FRS

Equipment I have:
48" Hi Lift
recovery strap
tire repair kit
air compressor
shovel, axe, saw
hitch shackle in the towing receiver
Tools
Duct tape

 

[rmarz]

Gear List

For info, I'll have a winch and general recovery gear. I will also have a can of WD-40 for my likely stuck Hi-Lift jack.

CB/HAM/FRS/Globalstar sat phone

Adventure Pass

 

[Ron B]

Looks like I'm in for Sunday (maybe Sat pm?). What trails are y'all planning to run on what day? I was hoping to do John Bull again, but you'll probably do that one on Sat. Dishpan is a fun one. I'll attach a picture of the fun part (the Devil's Slide, I think).

I also have a winch plus all the necessary recovery gear (a strap is most often a better and quicker recovery tool). I also have a pull-pal that we won't need and a hi-lift jack if anyone need their skull thumped by an out of control thrashing handle.

rb

 

[teotwaki]

Looks like I'm in for Sunday (maybe Sat pm?). What trails are y'all planning to run on what day? I was hoping to do John Bull again, but you'll probably do that one on Sat. Dishpan is a fun one. I'll attach a picture of the fun part (the Devil's Slide, I think).

I also have a winch plus all the necessary recovery gear (a strap is most often a better and quicker recovery tool). I also have a pull-pal that we won't need and a hi-lift jack if anyone need their skull thumped by an out of control thrashing handle.

rb

We'll only do the "easy" part of John Bull between 3N02 and 3N32. Hoping that I have read everthing about it correctly. Otherwise we can do the long and easy White Mountain run. Or maybe both....

On Sunday you'll want to hook up with these guys to plan the runs as I won't be there unless my schedule changes:

1. Rob (RobTheBrit) Unimog
2. Mike (Wanderer) 94 XJ
3. Richard (Rmarz) 05 Jeep Rubicon L-J
4. Chris (ujointclothing) '06 E350
5. Ron (Ron B) Big RED H-1


Hey Ujointclothing, I don't know your name or vehicle. Please post up!

 

[DesertBound]

I'm a bit lighter on equipment than most of you. I have:

Recovery strap
Shovel
Tire repair stuff
JB Weld
Duct Tape

 

[ntsqd]

The last two are the most important.