trump
Adventurist
These things are nearly unobtainium anymore, but Mitch found me a great set. I broke them down this evening and they look like they had never been engaged. Factory yellow grease lightly coated on everything.
Trump's 03 Tacoma
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These things are nearly unobtainium anymore, but Mitch found me a great set. I broke them down this evening and they look like they had never been engaged. Factory yellow grease lightly coated on everything.
4RunAmok
Explorer
That's friggin awesome!
It should be noted that these were this particular yard's LAST PAIR. And the yard dude had to pull out about 15 pairs of 2WD Hub/Half-Shaft/Upper and Lower Control Arm combos to get to these. The whole time I'm thinkin' "They're not going to be there, he just THINKS he has a set of manual hubs" "No no, they're under one of these!" he insists. The dude knows his yard.
trump
Adventurist
Tips/Lessons learned for manual hubs
I finished breaking everything down last night and learned some tricks in the process.
1. You absolutely must have a brass drift punch to unseat the cone washers on these manual hubs. Back the nuts off until they're flush with the stud. Then, use the brass punch and a BFH to hit the nut and stud. You'll see the cone washer jump and sometimes make a click when you get it free. Many people will just beat and pry on the hub until they come loose, but in the process risk damaging the hub body and causing them not to seal properly. PB Blaster is your friend.
2. Snap ring pliers specifically designed for the style of snap rings used with these hubs and CV shaft are on the top of my list for purchase. I couldn't imagine having to remove them on the trail like I did last night. Traditional snap ring pliers were next to useless.
3. After you break them down, the hub dials have a tiny ball bearing with a spring under it to keep them in the locked/unlocked position. If you don't know about them before hand, go ahead and consider them lost... I was lucky.
4. Don't count on being able to reuse the hub seals. They're crazy delicate... the originals in my case.
5. Breaking down the hub, spindle, and CV will take you 2 hours the first time around with breaks for swearing fits. With these tips/lessons learned, the second one will take you 10 mins.
I finished breaking everything down last night and learned some tricks in the process.
1. You absolutely must have a brass drift punch to unseat the cone washers on these manual hubs. Back the nuts off until they're flush with the stud. Then, use the brass punch and a BFH to hit the nut and stud. You'll see the cone washer jump and sometimes make a click when you get it free. Many people will just beat and pry on the hub until they come loose, but in the process risk damaging the hub body and causing them not to seal properly. PB Blaster is your friend.
2. Snap ring pliers specifically designed for the style of snap rings used with these hubs and CV shaft are on the top of my list for purchase. I couldn't imagine having to remove them on the trail like I did last night. Traditional snap ring pliers were next to useless.
3. After you break them down, the hub dials have a tiny ball bearing with a spring under it to keep them in the locked/unlocked position. If you don't know about them before hand, go ahead and consider them lost... I was lucky.
4. Don't count on being able to reuse the hub seals. They're crazy delicate... the originals in my case.
5. Breaking down the hub, spindle, and CV will take you 2 hours the first time around with breaks for swearing fits. With these tips/lessons learned, the second one will take you 10 mins.
TangoBlue
American Adventurist
LOL. Yes, all good gouge. There are others, but I've found this to be a good source of hub-related items... http://www.wabfab.org/Aisin-Manual-Hubs.html
4RunAmok
Explorer
Did we learn at the same auto shop class?
trump
Adventurist
LOL
Here's a couple pictures of the rebuild and cleaning.
A before shot of the dial before I restore it.
Nearly cleaned up hub body... Off to the parts washer tomorrow.
The goods.
trump
Adventurist
That's exactly what I had been thinking. Then, the ADD actuator gave out for the second time. It was $100 bucks for another (hard to find) used electric ADD actuator that might just choose to stop working again... Or, $407 before taxes for a brand new actuator. Spend $100 more and you can swap to manual hubs and eliminate all the electronic equipment used in the system (minus the 4wd indication light.) It was an easy decision since I've lost all confidence in the ADD system working.
Now to get everything done. I'm trying to see if I can pull a rabbit out of my hat and find a way to get everything done by Thurs. With the snow Prescott just recieved with this storm, I would feel better about having my 4wd functioning before traveling mountain roads.
RogueTacoma
New member
Hey Trump. I've been looking for those lights from Ecco. The only source I've seen has them at $91 each, is that right? yikes.
trump
Adventurist
That's probably right. IIRC it was a $200 upgrade when I ordered the front bumper. Solid, top quality product, but yes... expensive.
Blackdawg
Dr. Frankenstein
That's exactly what I had been thinking. Then, the ADD actuator gave out for the second time. It was $100 bucks for another (hard to find) used electric ADD actuator that might just choose to stop working again... Or, $407 before taxes for a brand new actuator. Spend $100 more and you can swap to manual hubs and eliminate all the electronic equipment used in the system (minus the 4wd indication light.) It was an easy decision since I've lost all confidence in the ADD system working.
Now to get everything done. I'm trying to see if I can pull a rabbit out of my hat and find a way to get everything done by Thurs. With the snow Prescott just recieved with this storm, I would feel better about having my 4wd functioning before traveling mountain roads.
Yea i don't have the electronic engaging 4wd thank goodness
just a lever for me but the manual hubs would still be super nice.
Dave Bennett
Adventurist
Nice score Mitch!
Now maybe Mark won't have to beat himself to death the next time we do Coyote Canyon
trump
Adventurist
Yea i don't have the electronic engaging 4wd thank goodness
The ADD actuator engages the front diff not the transfer case. I have a manual transfer case too. Just pray that your actuator doesn't ruin a trip.
trump
Adventurist
Now maybe Mark won't have to beat himself to death the next time we do Coyote Canyon
I still had low range gearing... 4WD is overrated.