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  1. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    Pretty sure that's how everyone described the 1972 Range Rover... The 1987 Range Rover... And so on. Don't you get that ostentatious, needlessly complex, and expensive IS their brand image that has been consistent for the past 30 years?
  2. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    To add to that... 1997 Defender 90 MSRP: $34k 1997 Jeep Wrangler Sport/4.0 MSRP: $17k What would make anyone think that the "next Defender" would ever compete with the JK?
  3. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    So on point. And what is there to even complain about with Land Rover? They are building world class 4x4s and proving them by putting them through the historical challenges that comprise their heritage (Great Divide Expedition). While simultaneously smashing sales records. Making billions in...
  4. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    Let's do a case study here. OR Which one is more of a departure from the brand's history?
  5. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    Pretty sad thread. Rover people shooting down their own brand and Jeep people coming in here carrying the flag to victory.
  6. proper4wd

    Why the Glass Roof??? LR3

    It is glued in just like a windshield (and the third brake light assy...)
  7. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    Indeed. On a more positive note Jason, I found some old photos of your Series from the LR 50th anniversary event at Greek Peak NY the other day. Will have to scan them in and send them off to you.
  8. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    Zack, what happened that he couldnt drive it?
  9. proper4wd

    Why the Glass Roof??? LR3

    You can tint it more. Find a good shop that uses the 3M UV blocking stuff and tint it down to like 5 or 10%. It will still have an "open air" feeling on the inside but will really cut out the heat. It would probably cost about 125 bucks to have it done by a pro.
  10. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    The recent trend of crapping on Land Rover as a brand and their newer products as vehicles is becoming pretty obnoxious in this forum.
  11. proper4wd

    Don't flame... BUT is the Wrangler the new Defender for the U.S. ???

    That's a shame. How do you substantiate this fear? I have yet to hear of an LR3 leaving someone stranded, dying of dehydration in Death Valley, even though many would have you believe they are prone to do so.
  12. proper4wd

    2015 discovery sport

    In fairness, I do not think that Mercedes provides all parts for all models going back indefinitely. Mechanical parts I would imagine they have good coverage on, but if you call your local Benz dealer and ask for a headliner or kick panel or dashboard assembly for a 1981 500SL I don't think...
  13. proper4wd

    22 Pages of LR campers

    This is an NAS Range Rover. Anybody seen it before?
  14. proper4wd

    22 Pages of LR campers

    So awesome.
  15. proper4wd

    2015 discovery sport

    http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/jaguar-land-rover-launches-special-operations "Special Vehicle Operations will also work on restoring classic Land Rovers and Jaguars; this part of the business will utilize the existing workshop at Browns Lane in Coventry. In this regard, SVO will be like...
  16. proper4wd

    2015 discovery sport

    You guys are leaving out the fact that the company is making more money than ever. Literally smashing records. So they should just stop, fall on their sword, and choose to go bankrupt (again) by producing leaky, slow, narrow market appeal 4x4s? Give me a break. I love the vintage models as...
  17. proper4wd

    2015 discovery sport

    Link to 2015 Discovery Sport product brief direct from JLRNA: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk7r262cdudwhze/15%20DISCO%20SPORT%20INFO.pdf?dl=0
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