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Why are you quoting first edition, pricing starts at base, first editions are for those that want pretty much everything, very close to X 110 S model is cheapest in AU and its still way higher specced than any wrangler. If you think jeeps are good value for you, go buy one, this is the...

Mate 2x the price??, seriously are you talking AU dollars. The MSRP for the new Def is US49k Look at the base price of the 110, then look at what the 90 will be, then look at how much it will be without air susp when that option arrives, then look at what the commercial will be. We are...

I read somewhere, LR said, "if you like the old defender better than the new one, find yourself an old one" i would add or keep the one you have got and be happy for those that want to get the new. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Comparing a jeep and a new defender as in the same league is pretty funny..defender is in a whole different class..it will have very few real competitors. The Height adjustable durable monitored air suspension, TR2 and its wading depth sets it apart from the get go. Sent from my SM-G973F using...

Agree price takes into account value to LR's target market. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

I also hear because it has a touchscreen and comfortable seats it won't be able to drive Moab (despite the videos) or the Aussie Outback [emoji6] Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

SE you mean? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Industry press is not landrover, you claimed LR said they moved the defender into the luxury market, that is false. Defender is the modern interpretation of the same vehicle, being more capable, reliable and durable says it all, despite actually (heaven forbid being comfortable for more than...

Sorry mate, anyone can find a news title on anything to back up a comment, find me an on record comment from landrover: Again LR only said something along the lines of: we have taken the discovery more upmarket closer to the range rover. They have also dicided to push the range rover deeper...

So you agree every good looking girls would disagree with you [emoji6][emoji1787] Its targeted at girls/ wives, but wives also have husbands and boyfriends. And i wouldn't disrespect any guy that bought one if that's what they needed as long as it wasn't pink [emoji6] Met an older genteleman...

Well the new one is by all facts more durable, capable and reliable does that make the old one less defender? No. If they tested the old defender the way they tested the new, the windows would have dropped out and dash rattled to pieces by the end of lap 1. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Well done mate!, the newer models don't get that much hate in AU, as most are not worried about the value of resale of their US100k old defender. Defenders are priced reasonably normal in OZ due to only ceasing sales in 2016. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Agreed Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Just about every good looking girl on the planet would disagree with you. But as you say each to his own. The new one is a significant improvement, check it out. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Nah they said they intentionally moved the Discovery up market. Defender has just had all its innovation in 1 year. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Im not following, that rear is fully rubberized in checkerplate pattern, no carpet to be seen, all critical buttons throughout the car are well above 1 meter line, its IP67 anyway so that means under 1meter of water for 1hr it will function. That rear is extremely functional and innovative, 5...

I too was a bit shocked by bringing religion into this to try to vilify those that have a different opinion. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Personal attacks, telling you about a more reliable source of data is hardly a personal attack. Wow, when shown the facts, cold hard facts, you try to make out that new defender fans and jd.power itself is a religion because both don't agree with you. I have this saved and post it up when i...

Im hoping your meaning to scare it to get going again [emoji6][emoji1787][emoji1417] Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

I won't be there, but I'm sure plenty of you guys will. Detail people, engine bay, can someone get some good shots of the straight 6 with the cover off, front/top/sides. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk