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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    JLR and BMW partnership on next gen powertrain is just the first of several new industry partnerships that will be required for survival. China Auto Sales Just Posted Their Worst Month Ever Wed, 06/12/2019 ".......The future turned even gloomier when outgoing Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche said...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Hydrogen is a energy storage medium, same as batteries but without the limitations of range and environment. Non-dispatchable solar and wind generated electricity with electrolyser's are used to convert water to hydrogen. Fuel cells then convert that hydrogen back to electricity and water...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    "The driver selects the appropriate terrain and ride height setting, and the computer does the rest. " LOL. The owners of vehicles equipped with TC 'assumed' that the computer did the rest. Well guess what ............ point-and-shoot was point-and-fail. There's more to a successful off-road...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    "........Back in those days, coil-spring suspension was unheard of in the off-road world. ......." Any description of suspension technology that doesn't take into account early Gen 1 Broncos says alot. Ford used coil springs 4 years before the RR was intro'd. RR hub technology was basically...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Several years ago a group of LR's took a Sunday drive through the mountains. 90's Disco's, 90's Defenders, 00's Disco's, 10's RR's. After lunch there was a hill with a nice view at the top. Broken down granite and shale the entire length. The open-diff vehicles made it maybe 20' up the incline...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Author is clueless. Coil springs were used on the gen 1 Ford Bronco. Late 60's/early 70's? Mechanical lockers are not difficult to engage. It's called a switch on the dash. As for early TC which is really just reverse ABS, it sucked. Higher sampling rates have helped but it can still suck in...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    I would expect the new Defender to have at a minimum a rear locker + traction control, similar to the LR4. This is not a new sub-system.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Actually JLR NA sales were much better than expected. European and China volumes did decline as Brexit and China trade/quality became an issue. JLR manufacturing is Chery in China to avoid a 25% tariff. Overall volume is up but so are R&D cost as JLR develops new powertrains and new models...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    SOTA (Software-Over-The-Air) may be a Range Rover feature but I'm not interested in JLR surveilling my every move and selling/monetizing that data. JLR is walking into a quagmire.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    As noted from the Geneva auto show partnerships and consolidation are the future of vehicle development and manufacturing. The cost of R&D is high and the need to get new product into subcontractor production is also high. Many sub-systems are already sourced from common suppliers. You left...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    BMW also near introduction of a Hydrogen Fuel Cell based powertrain that addresses range and temperature issues of BEV's. Intro of phase I is expected in 2020. Phase II mid-2020's A BEV Land Rover makes zero sense. BMW's partner for this technology? ........... Toyota. BMW and Toyota to...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    JLR and BMW enter into partnership for electric drive train technology development and production.
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    Looking for advice from seasoned adventurers

    OK, so those wanting to hit some trails in Colorado need to understand that we were hammered this winter and some ski areas are still open. Four wheel drive trails? Check before you even consider attempting travel. Alpine Loop / Engineer Pass report: ".......5/16/19 - It is important to note...
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    Looking for advice from seasoned adventurers

    Some general observations: Don't try and see every area and point of interest on a long trip. You will spend too much seat time. Generally we camp 3-4 nights and then hit a improved campground will all the amenities. Plan accordingly and pay attention to trail closures - It's June and...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    There is that possibility with every vehicle. My point is that safety is oversold when it actually comes down to buying decisions. For the outdoor crowd safety is near the bottom. For the urban dweller it is probably ranked higher. Data is your friend. There are many more Jeeps on the road...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Jeep safety is just a reference point for LR design decisions. It was not a discussion on Jeep safety itself. The point is that safety is not one of the primary decision criteria for a offroad vehicle. Jeep is that reference as sales volumes of Jeeps far exceeds LR. The new Defender can meet...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Let's take this another step. Do all the regulations on safety end in appliances? Case in point. Two white vans pulled up to me yesterday. At first I thought they were the same model/manufacturer. They were not. One was a Nissan, the other a Toyota. The differences were minor. Both boring white...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    JLR's China issues are quality and distributorship structure, to name a few. Not sure how electrification will help. In addition China's economy is slowing while competition has jumped. Previous market share assumptions need to be revisited.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Let the Geneva auto show merger discussions be realized! Fiat Chrysler to merge with Renault JLR financial woes tied to China? Don't look for a recovery there any time soon. In fact likely they should plan for significantly lower China sales going forward. China is a whole discussion by...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Polar opposite of Range Rover would be a good design point. Look forward to the new Defender as the Discovery 5 missed with us.
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