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Liability is intertwined with safety...if somebody gets hurt you better well believe the vehicle manuf. can back up their testing and engineering calcs to support their design decisions...

What if I am not as comfortable with your judgement as you are but still gotta drive on the same roads? I'd like to have your age, athletic ability, reflex test, eye test, health profile, etc ;) I'll make that distinction.

Your "stupid" is somebody else's "safe" just like your "safe" is somebody else's "stupid"....it goes both ways. F-it, throw it all out, all ratings....run what ya brung, go by feel and "intuition".....after all, some guys can can look at something and understand it's mechanics better than the...

Like everything in life there are extremes and nothing is absolute and manuf ratings use design principles like "factor of safety", which is not an absolute end all be all, it has assumptions built into it. Manuf rate trucks based on typical duty cycles and use cases, they are not designed for...

I distilled your list down to items that are effected by having an overloaded rig. Things related to braking, "Tailgaiting", "Ice", "Snow", "Animals" are 100% effected by overloading. Things related to handling, "Speeding", "Rain", "Curves" are effected by overloading. Things related to...

I'm more in your camp to be honest.....at least when it comes to trucks. Bicycles and motorcycles are a different animal.

It was a braked trailer, so I'm guessing in the ballpark of carrying an extra 1000 lbs payload in a Tacoma based on the gain % the trailer was set at....but regardless, the damn thing was "RATED" to tow 7500. I just wish 3/4T / 1 T trucks were the size they were 20 years ago....

It has a higher GVWR than a Tacoma, but its in line with the likes of a 4runner and other SUV's. Are you asking why they designed it like that? Who knows.

I've driven overloaded Tacomas (my 01) and my Ranger (2019), we must be going down different 'passes' I guess!? My last run pulling a 4000 lb trailer in the mountains (gravel roads) in ID was sketchy at best....Ranger rated at 7500! Cooked the hell out of my brakes, 4wd low was an option, that...

All it means is the axles load bearing capacity are likely not the limiting factor.....whether that is bearings, axle housing strength, springs, spring perch, frame strength or anything relating to the axle bearing weight. It does not suggest that any other drivetrain related items such as R&P...

Unless he's bought one he doesn't have one, that was the question.....should he buy one to travel with full time...

Well, it has a higher GVWR than a Tacoma and is right up there with a 4runner....whats not to understand?

The problem with that is you are relying on somebody else to make the same smart "grey area" decisions you are because they heard it on the internet. You perspective comes across a bit "It's ok for me to do it because I know", sure, it just means you need to respect others to push the limits of...

The Traverse #'s are per manual or per door sticker? I'm in the numbers - I make sure of it....

You just going to make up capacities, we need to rely on something. Different duty cycle is likely factored in. Maybe they are light and have minimal options?

Tow capacity is still largely meaningless, or at least pointless in and of itself....GAWR or Payload are the two that generally limit towing capacity...

You are one of the few folks on this website that doesn't take debating / disagreeing personally - I appreciate that! There may also be performance expectations - here in the states we have very high expectations regarding acceleration and handling, manuf may feel like the bar is set a lot...

The nuance with #1 is that the roads and use case in Aus *may* allow there to be a lower factor of safety, they don't have the mountain ranges and potential speeds we do. So with that said, if a person lived in Nebraska they may be safer to be at or over GVWR than if they lived the West...

I get it but I was using the example of your specific vehicle....adding the GAWR together (your "GAWRs") doesn't give a number that is in any way meaningful or relatable to GVWR or Payload....different metrics and different numbers.

I was using an extreme example to illustrate the point of GAWR, adding them together gives a non-sensical value....using my example, you'd be under / at payload but you'd be over GAWR. Same goes for the back, the GAWR will likely limit you before payload is fully reached....it's their way of...