1/2 Ton vs 3/4 Ton for Family Adventures?

[deserteagle56]

What was the ride quality like on your 950 f250 power stroke? I'm never driven a truck with front leafs so I'm wondering if I'm going to absolutely hate it. I could get a low miles 99-2002 f-250 7.3L for roughly 20k vs a 6.7 powerstroke would probably run me 40-55k depending on year and trim level.

I had a 2000 F350 with the 7.3 diesel and 6 speed manual for a while. The ride was just fine. Since then I've had a couple Dodge/Cummins which have the coil spring front end and in my opinion the Ford ride was just as good.

 

[B^2]

So revisiting this almost a year later and the price of an f-250 lariat tremor with the 7.3 is pretty similar to the price of a fully loaded f-150 lariat. Difference beasts for sure but it's got me thinking again.

 

[Eric Edwards]

My 1500 diesel lasted 9 months before I went up to a 2500 diesel... the 1500's payload just got eaten up so fast it was scary. 3.0 Kings and 35's and I haven't looked back.

 

[B^2]

My 1500 diesel lasted 9 months before I went up to a 2500 diesel... the 1500's payload just got eaten up so fast it was scary. 3.0 Kings and 35's and I haven't looked back.View attachment 701198

whats your normal payload? My setup before was an ARE CX HD cap and a bunch of random ass camping stuff. I wish I had weighed everything before I got rid of my Colorado.

What's the payload of the f- 150 crew cab with the 6.5 bed and the max tow vs the f-250 with the 7.3 and the tremor package.?

 

[Todd780]

whats your normal payload? My setup before was an ARE CX HD cap and a bunch of random ass camping stuff. I wish I had weighed everything before I got rid of my Colorado.

What's the payload of the f- 150 crew cab with the 6.5 bed and the max tow vs the f-250 with the 7.3 and the tremor package.?

Funny enough, I just got a pic of a payload sticker for a 2021 F150 SuperCrew Max Tow w/ 6.5" bed. (See the pics below of the equipment list and payload sticker for that truck)

How the truck is optioned will affect the payload rating. So, you'd have to look at the door jamb sticker for the particular truck you'd be looking at.




I can't help with the F250 payload. Maybe someone else can chime in.

 

[B^2]

Thanks for the photos, F-250 looks about 1,000lbs more give or take with the 7.3: https://www.fordtremor.com/threads/actual-ford-tremor-payload.107/

 

[nickw]

Thanks for the photos, F-250 looks about 1,000lbs more give or take with the 7.3: https://www.fordtremor.com/threads/actual-ford-tremor-payload.107/

Yeah, 3/4T diesels seem to be in that ~2700 lb range, while comparable 3/4T gassers tend to be in the ~3200 lb range.

 

[givemethewillys]

whats your normal payload? My setup before was an ARE CX HD cap and a bunch of random ass camping stuff. I wish I had weighed everything before I got rid of my Colorado.

What's the payload of the f- 150 crew cab with the 6.5 bed and the max tow vs the f-250 with the 7.3 and the tremor package.?

My 2016 f150 6.5ft bed king ranch max tow has a payload of 1570lbs.

 

[Tex68w]

2021 RAM 3500 single cab long bed SRW 4x4 6.7L CTD, 4557lb payload.

 

[eyemgh]

I appreciate the hunt for the perfect vehicle, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it simply doesn’t exist. You have to accept that you can get 80-90% of the way there and then decide what you’re willing to give up, carrying capacity or fuel economy.

For us, with a half-ton, a FWC Raven shell, wanting more space, and maxed out on load capacity, the decision was easy…1 ton. I’m in the middle of the build. It’s a F350 XLT (7.3/4.30) Super Cab (148 WB) that will carry a Bowen Customs bed and a Hallmark K2 full time. We opted for 35s and a Carli suspension. It’s not going to be cheap, but much less than most vans, and it’ll always get bad mileage. It’ll suit our needs though and will have the capacity to carry a hard side should we ever move in that direction.

Good luck on the quest. It’s a fun puzzle to try to solve.

 

[Todd780]

2021 RAM 3500 single cab long bed SRW 4x4 6.7L CTD, 4557lb payload.

Show off.

 

[Tex68w]

Show off.

Got a 4Runner or Jeep anyone needs me to haul around in the bed for them? Lol

 

[tacollie]

My sc sb F250 is 3317lbs.

Got a 4Runner or Jeep anyone needs me to haul around in the bed for them? Lol

I've got 79' 2wd Toyota long bed PU that would be perfect ?

 

[ricoisme26]

It will primarily be used on the weekends. We have a subaru outback that we use for most of our daily driving. I'd want the 6'5 box if I went 1/2 ton. I like being able to throw my skis in the bed of the truck without needing to add a roof top box. I'm less concerned about departure angle because I'm not likely to be in situations where the extra foot is a big detractor. A bigger camper may be in the future but it would most likely be a bumper pull not a slide in and not for another few years.

Is this still your primary use case? If so what size travel trailer are you considering? Something modest that can sleep a family of 4 and a dog, has a bathroom, and kitchen could weigh as little as 3500lbs on a single axle. You could also want to tow the taj mahal. More realistically for a bumper pulled travel trailer upper limits are probably around 34 feet in length and somewhere just north for 10k lb gvwr.

On paper a half ton can tow any of the above, in practice a half ton is probably best up to about 5000lbs and mid 20s for length. If payload in the bed is of concern combine with the tongue weight a small travel trailer around 4000lbs should still be no problem.

If plans include a trailer over 5000lbs and a loaded down truck it'll still be do able in a half ton but will be more comfortable in a larger truck.

whats your normal payload? My setup before was an ARE CX HD cap and a bunch of random ass camping stuff. I wish I had weighed everything before I got rid of my Colorado.

What's the payload of the f- 150 crew cab with the 6.5 bed and the max tow vs the f-250 with the 7.3 and the tremor package.?

For Lariat trims I'd expect about 1600lbs pay load in an F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost and roughly 2900lbs give or take for the F250 with the 7.3. Bumping to an F350 with the 7.3 pushes 4000lbs for comparison sake.


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[eyemgh]

This will help some. It doesn't account for heavier trim levels, but the bigger differences are in wheelbase, 2X vs 4X, and motor.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/dam/aem_fleet/en_us/fleet/towing-guides/2022_Ford_RVandTrailerTowingGuide.pdf