2010 patriot soft roader build.

[jhill15]

Those 225's plus wheel spacers will be great fit for my setup. They look amazing on your Pat

Thanks man! I really love the 225's. I wish I would've bought them to begin with...Lol could've saved some money.

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[jhill15]

Some night shots!

Headlights and fogs

Just the light bar

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[kojackJKU]

Cool. There is only one tire that's 225 in 17, so I have to goto 236/65/17. That's ok tho. They also look great on the pat. and being only 4lbs heavier I won't loose much driveability.

 

[Darkrider]

So what is the max height these things can handle before the risk of suspension interference? My previous SUV was an '08 Trailblazer and you could only go up to about a 30.6" tall tire before you risked making contact with the upper ball joint on them without using spacers.

 

[jhill15]

So what is the max height these things can handle before the risk of suspension interference? My previous SUV was an '08 Trailblazer and you could only go up to about a 30.6" tall tire before you risked making contact with the upper ball joint on them without using spacers.

I believe 2.5 inches is the max for a second gen. For a first gen fd1...in theory 2011 springs will put you up almost 2 inches then adding the rro lift on top will put you up 2 more inches for a max height of 4 inches.

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[kojackJKU]

The first gen had high springs on the FDII package. Everything about the suspensions are the same for all years except that in 2011, they just put FDII springs on every model. There are no down sides to putting on higher springs. Jhill just had the unfortunate realization that his rig had many parts ready to fail, and once he let go of the suspension to install the new springs, all hell broke loose. If you did it to a pat with no bushings, cv joints etc worn out, it would drive as stock. You can add the RRO spacer on any patriot using stock springs of any flavor. You can essentially fit a 29" wheel, the spring perch is the blockade here, you can do the pinch weld mod and trim the inner fender liner and fit the same tire with no lift.

 

[jhill15]

The first gen had high springs on the FDII package. Everything about the suspensions are the same for all years except that in 2011, they just put FDII springs on every model. There are no down sides to putting on higher springs. Jhill just had the unfortunate realization that his rig had many parts ready to fail, and once he let go of the suspension to install the new springs, all hell broke loose. If you did it to a pat with no bushings, cv joints etc worn out, it would drive as stock. You can add the RRO spacer on any patriot using stock springs of any flavor. You can essentially fit a 29" wheel, the spring perch is the blockade here, you can do the pinch weld mod and trim the inner fender liner and fit the same tire with no lift.

This is very true lol!!!

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[Darkrider]

I believe 2.5 inches is the max for a second gen. For a first gen fd1...in theory 2011 springs will put you up almost 2 inches then adding the rro lift on top will put you up 2 more inches for a max height of 4 inches.

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Nice! Should have specified max tire height but the post below catches that.

The first gen had high springs on the FDII package. Everything about the suspensions are the same for all years except that in 2011, they just put FDII springs on every model. There are no down sides to putting on higher springs. Jhill just had the unfortunate realization that his rig had many parts ready to fail, and once he let go of the suspension to install the new springs, all hell broke loose. If you did it to a pat with no bushings, cv joints etc worn out, it would drive as stock. You can add the RRO spacer on any patriot using stock springs of any flavor. You can essentially fit a 29" wheel, the spring perch is the blockade here, you can do the pinch weld mod and trim the inner fender liner and fit the same tire with no lift.

Great info! Now can someone run a 15" rim on these or are they limited to 16" and larger? Reason i am asking is if 15"s can be fitted then 235/75R15s would work well and there is still a ton of tire selection in that size for decent prices. Next up of course would be a 235/60R16 if 15" rims cannot be fitted. So with all the above said if i am understanding correctly. I could safely run the same size tires as Jhill has now on a stock Patriot if i do the two mods you mentioned?

 

[kojackJKU]

15's are hit and miss do to brake rotor and caliper interference. you can run the 225/70/17 with no mods as far as I know. Maybe wheel spacers to kick the wheels out a bit. but I don't think Jhill is on them now so you could probably run safe with those. I have to add 1.25" wheel spacers on my pat to run 235/65/17. It looks really good with this setup however.

 

[jhill15]

Nice! Should have specified max tire height but the post below catches that.



Great info! Now can someone run a 15" rim on these or are they limited to 16" and larger? Reason i am asking is if 15"s can be fitted then 235/75R15s would work well and there is still a ton of tire selection in that size for decent prices. Next up of course would be a 235/60R16 if 15" rims cannot be fitted. So with all the above said if i am understanding correctly. I could safely run the same size tires as Jhill has now on a stock Patriot if i do the two mods you mentioned?

Here ya go Darkrider! This thread will tell you what 15's will fit. https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=112626&share_fid=90893&share_type=t
15" Wheels and 30" tires on your Patriot (no spacers): Test Fit Results

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[jhill15]

So here are my line predictions of the 2 springs I have. The top line is the moog 81482 and has a free height of 15 inches. The bottom line is the moog 81492 which measures 14 inches. I based my measurements from the moog 81480 spring that is on there now, which has a free height of 15.5 inches.

Here is a side by side of the oem fd1 spring and the moog 81492. They are identical in length but the moog spring has more coils.

Here is the 81492 and 81482

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[kojackJKU]

Nice line setup. are all springs the same spring rate?

 

[jhill15]

Nice line setup. are all springs the same spring rate?

Thanks man! They are all constant rate springs but the 81482 has a 175 lbs spring rate and the 81492 has 177 lbs spring rate.

I racked my brain on this lol and hopefully my predictions are right. I basically looked at load height of the current spring and dropped the lines to the free height of the new springs.

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[Darkrider]

Here ya go Darkrider! This thread will tell you what 15's will fit. https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=112626&share_fid=90893&share_type=t
15" Wheels and 30" tires on your Patriot (no spacers): Test Fit Results

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Nice! That will def help out later. Sorry about all the questions, I have liked the Patriots ever since they came out and now that they are getting to be more affordable i am looking at them more and more. So i am in research mode to learn as much as i can before committing to buying one or a Compass.

 

[jhill15]

Nice! That will def help out later. Sorry about all the questions, I have liked the Patriots ever since they came out and now that they are getting to be more affordable i am looking at them more and more. So i am in research mode to learn as much as i can before committing to buying one or a Compass.

No worries man! That's what we're all here for.

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