2012 Canter FG details

[haven]

http://www.mitfuso.com/en-US/Models/FG4X4

Mitsubishi Fuso USA has posted details of the 2012 FE and FG models. They are now sold under the Canter brand, bringing North America into line with the rest of the world.

All models receive a new 3.0 L four cylinder engine and 6 speed automatic transmission. The new powertrain has an 80 mph top speed, up a bit from earlier models.

The Canter FG continues to use a step-down frame that has a lower strength rating than the 2WD FE models. This means the FG frame will twist more as it travels over uneven ground, helping to keep the wheels in contact with the road surface.

The Canter FG will be offered only in single cab format with 134 inch wheelbase.

 

[1leglance]

thanks for this Chip...
you are freaking amazing and someone should be paying for your ability to keep up with so much of what is going on in the world
thanks again!

 

[GaryD]

Also announcement and a bit of video here

http://www.ntea.com/News/Default.aspx?id=23658

I am disappointed the turning circle on the FG is up to 44' Too bad we don't have the option of a SWB version.

 

[lehel1]

2012 canter

hello all

be very interesting to see and drive the new fg's. i wonder how the "much" smaller displacement, higher reving, and lower torque motor will do with an automatic and in general.

for now i'm glad i got our 08, the new emissions setup on the 2012's should be quite an adventure in itself. i was nervious about the dpf on ours (we had a choice to get an 07 without it, but were told we'd have to add it anyways in a couple of years) when we bought our truck, but this new setup is just down right scary.

the worst problem right now is, when will all the diesel requirements and emission changes start settle down, i'm afraid many of us will end up with obsolete drivetrains in only a couple of years.

cheers lehel

 

[GaryD]

....for now i'm glad i got our 08, the new emissions setup on the 2012's should be quite an adventure in itself. i was nervious about the dpf on ours (we had a choice to get an 07 without it, but were told we'd have to add it anyways in a couple of years) when we bought our truck, but this new setup is just down right scary.cheers lehel

Looks like it has been used in Japan and Europe for a while. I was having similar thoughts and was googling around trying to find out more. Can't remember where I read it but I think since 2009? One of the threads I looked at was this one from the Philipines which makes it look like new buyers here won't be the first to try this set up and it has a track record

http://technicallyjuris.blogspot.com/2010/12/new-2010-2011-8th-generation-mitsubishi.html

Edit- My bad - the announcement I read re August 2009 was for the new engine being used in Europe not necessarily bluetec

http://www.mitsubishi-fuso.com/en/press/100720/100720.html

 

[Amesz00]

ive managed to find out a little about this new engine/tranny combo- seems like it may not be a merc engine, but designed by mitsubishi themselves. upgraded from solenoid to piezo injectors (higher tech, faster operation), probly twin turbo (compounding my guess) so hopefully lots of boost + fuel= acceptable power/torque for a 6.5t truck. no power figures been released yet, mr bishi seems to be holding em close to his chest.
emissions control is by way of EGR + SCR, requiring a 'bluetec' tank. mitsubishi claims bluetec consumption will be around 2% of fuel consumption under normal conditions.
the 6sp auto is a twin clutch 'automated manual' design, not actually a slushbox auto. but unlike current 'automated' designs it changes gears without interruption to torque transmission, so it wont be like driving the useless box in the MAN TGM (for example) where it takes an eternity and a day to swap cogs- not good in sand, up hills, for acceleration- basicly no good for anything...

 

[whatcharterboat]

the 6sp auto is a twin clutch 'automated manual' design, not actually a slushbox auto. but unlike current 'automated' designs it changes gears without interruption to torque transmission, so it wont be like driving the useless box in the MAN TGM (for example) where it takes an eternity and a day to swap cogs- not good in sand, up hills, for acceleration- basicly no good for anything..

Hi Andrew,

the latest I got ( 2 days ago) was that Fuso Australia was offered the auto and all wheel drive but opted to stay with the manual box and part-time 4wd.

 

[FusoFG]

no power figures been released yet, mr bishi seems to be holding em close to his chest.

from the spec sheet:

 

[GaryD]

Looks like a bit more hp but 52 lb-ft less torque:

http://www.mitfuso.com/en-US/Resources/Literature

screenshot previous model:

 

[mog]

2000 and before
Model Mitsubishi 4D34-3AT3A
Type 4-stroke cycle, watercooled, direct injection,
turbocharged, intercooled diesel
No. of cylinders Four in-line
Piston displacement 238.0 cu. in. (3.9 liters)
Max. output (SAE, gross) 135 hp/2,900 rpm
Max. torque (SAE, gross) 253 lb.ft./1,600 rpm

2001 to 2004
Mitsubishi 4D34-3AT3A
Type 4-stroke cycle, watercooled, direct injection,
turbocharged, intercooled diesel
No. of cylinders Four in-line
Piston displacement 238.0 cu. in. (3.9 liters)
Max. output (SAE, gross) 145 hp@2,900 rpm
Max. torque (SAE, gross) 275 lb.ft.@1,600 rpm

2005 to 2011
Mitsubishi 4M50
Type DOHC 4-stroke cycle, water-cooled,
turbo-charged, intercooled diesel
No. of cylinders Four in-line
Piston displacement 299.0 cu.in. (4.9 liter)
Max. output (SAE, gross) 147 hp @ 2700 rpm
Max. torque (SAE, gross) 347 lb.-ft. @ 1600 rpm

2012
Mitsubishi 4P10(T5)
Type DOHC,4-stroke cycle, water-cooled,
turbocharged, intercooled diesel with 4 valves per cylinder
No. of cylinders Four in-line
Displacement 183 cu. in (3.0 L)
Max. output (SAE, gross) 161 hp @ 3500 rpm
Max. torque (SAE, gross) 295 lb.-ft. @ 1600 rpm

 

[lehel1]

bluetec ?

hello all

at almost $10 bucks a gallon for exhuast fluid like bluetec (this is thru napa) and using almost 1.5-2.0 per 66 gallons (we run two tanks on our truck) and being remote as we are (havn't been able to find it in stock anywhere in our local area) i don't think i would now buy a new fuso or truck with this system on it, especailly for any kind of expedition rig.

i wonder if the truck systems would still fuction and truck drivable if you ran out of the exhaust fluid ???

scary stuff

cheers lehel

 

[HINO SG]

2000 and before
M
No. of cylinders Four in-line
Piston displacement 299.0 cu.in. (4.9 liter)
Max. output (SAE, gross) 147 hp @ 2700 rpm
Max. torque (SAE, gross) 347 lb.-ft. @ 1600 rpm

2012
Mitsubishi 4P10(T5)
Type DOHC,4-stroke cycle, water-cooled,
turbocharged, intercooled diesel with 4 valves per cylinder
No. of cylinders Four in-line
Displacement 183 cu. in (3.0 L)
Max. output (SAE, gross) 161 hp @ 3500 rpm
Max. torque (SAE, gross) 295 lb.-ft. @ 1600 rpm

up a little on h.p., down a fair amount on torque. doesn't look like an overall improvement at all, at least on paper.

 

[mog]

<snip> i don't think i would now buy a new fuso or truck with this system on it, especailly for any kind of expedition rig.
i wonder if the truck systems would still fuction and truck drivable if you ran out of the exhaust fluid ??? cheers lehel

You might have seen this, but a pretty good discussion over in the 'EarthRoamer, Global Xpedition Vehicles, Unicat section'

What about the DEF system when you travel to Third World countries?
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57486

 

[haven]

Lower torque sounds like a step backwards, but the 6 speed auto trans will help. The smaller displacement engine may get better mpg, too. We'll have to wait for the new trucks to arrive at dealers later this month to find out.

Prices for DEF are all over the map. You have to shop around in your area. The O'Reilly Auto Parts store near my house sells DEF for $6 a gallon, or $12 for a 2.5 gallon jug. Truck stops I've visited pump DEF for about $3 a gallon.

 

[whatcharterboat]

The smaller displacement engine may get better mpg, too.

Hi Chip,

I would almost bet any engine running DEF instead of EGR would get better MPG. Especially if the EGR had to meet new Euro5 standards and would therefore be pulling an even higher percentage exhaust gas back into the engine than they are currently at Euro 4. (Note: not sure if Euro # apply to you as they do here but sure you can relate to an ever increasing American equivalent emmission standard)


BTW I heard that a large expedition truck from one of the more common European companies was built recently with a custom 145 litre (38.3 US.Gal) DEF tank. Certainly a sign of things to come for trucks intending long distance or expedition-style travel in third world countries where DEF may not be so readily available.