plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
I don't think the width is a issue. Its such a small amount that if you'd have trouble with it than you likely would with a stock one also.
2017 Chevy Colorado ZR2
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Ryan Barnes
Observer
I'll be glad when this truck actually gets released and this thread can get back on topic, LOL
Almost exactly what I'm doing. '16 Duramax LT. Just added Icon Stage 5 and a Deaver mini-pack in the back. Fingers crossed the lockers are backwards compatible (at least the rear) and I'm good to go.
Cool truck nonetheless and awesome that Chevy launched it. I'd love to see the mid-size segment grow, especially with diesels and options outside of Tacomas. They're obviously great trucks, but choice is good.
Jeep or Tacoma
Explorer
chevy and toyota
I have driven both for years. I got 225,000 miles out of my 2 blazer sport, but at 115,000 the computer started to go in the land cruiser. traded it is for a 4x4 4door z71 sold it within 2 years cause it was too dam low. My first toyota was a 78 with the 22re motor and it was ver y good off road. It was a company car so it got left behind. and I got a ford bronco which wallowed through sand washes like a drunken hippo until it would get stuck even with seriouly aired down tires later got a barn door full size suburban which was like a tank and virtually unstoppable.. Guess the point is you can have good an dbad luck with any thing
I had a 2007 tacoma and a jeep rubi a the same time both were fun but the jeep was way more fun. both were capable but the jeep way more capable.
So I went to the san diego car show hoping to see a teaser of the new jeep or the new chevy no luck But I did sit in the new tacoma trade pro and a funny thing occurred I keep hitting my knees on the steering wheel even while adjusting it up all the way. HMMMM did not like that
But I also looked at the chevy colorado and it fit me well but it was $46,000 clams with the diesel and the nice interior. 46000 ****** so I am guessing that the zr2 is gonna hit 50 K and because of that it won't be much competition to the TRD. still I applaud the the effort and I had the money I would be damned tempted. My old h-3 was pretty darned nice and it came with 33s but I put on 35's and they fit well except at full compression and lock to lock crank then they rubbed a little bit.. Then there is the Jeep pick up coming out soon I am so confused>>>>>>>
:jumping::REOutShootinghunter:yikes: what is poor boy to do?
I have driven both for years. I got 225,000 miles out of my 2 blazer sport, but at 115,000 the computer started to go in the land cruiser. traded it is for a 4x4 4door z71 sold it within 2 years cause it was too dam low. My first toyota was a 78 with the 22re motor and it was ver y good off road. It was a company car so it got left behind. and I got a ford bronco which wallowed through sand washes like a drunken hippo until it would get stuck even with seriouly aired down tires later got a barn door full size suburban which was like a tank and virtually unstoppable.. Guess the point is you can have good an dbad luck with any thing
I had a 2007 tacoma and a jeep rubi a the same time both were fun but the jeep was way more fun. both were capable but the jeep way more capable.
So I went to the san diego car show hoping to see a teaser of the new jeep or the new chevy no luck But I did sit in the new tacoma trade pro and a funny thing occurred I keep hitting my knees on the steering wheel even while adjusting it up all the way. HMMMM did not like that
But I also looked at the chevy colorado and it fit me well but it was $46,000 clams with the diesel and the nice interior. 46000 ****** so I am guessing that the zr2 is gonna hit 50 K and because of that it won't be much competition to the TRD. still I applaud the the effort and I had the money I would be damned tempted. My old h-3 was pretty darned nice and it came with 33s but I put on 35's and they fit well except at full compression and lock to lock crank then they rubbed a little bit.. Then there is the Jeep pick up coming out soon I am so confused>>>>>>>
:jumping::REOutShootinghunter:yikes: what is poor boy to do?I'd really like to get one of these as I could consolidate vehicles. Right now I have a lightly modified wrangler for off- road, a half ton extended cab pickup for towing/hauling and a car for dd duty. This could replace them all, but I need a little more tow/payload capacity. Not a whole lot more, but my trailer weighs just under 5k lbs when loaded for camping and that's just cutting it too close when factoring what would also get loaded in the truck. Heck,at 500lbs tongue weight and with 5-600lbs worth of passengers (me,wife,kids,dog), that leaves just 200-300lbs, which is usually what we bring, so we'd be right at capacity with no room for extras.
I'll have to wait and see what Jeep does with the gladiator, a 6k tow capacity would be fine as everything could be loaded in the airstream and still have plenty of payload left in the vehicle and trailer as we never bring anywhere near a thousands pounds worth of extra stuff. I know the drivetrain they have can do it as even the uni body v6 grand Cherokee can tow 6200lbs, let's hope they don't gimp the rubicon version of the truck too much like Chevy has with the zr2. I'd be happy with a z71 with the lockers,tbh,as long as it kept the tow rating. In my use,I could use the traction more than the suspension articulation. Hopefully the jeep has both, but towing will probably depend on the roof configuration more than anything (which is what limits the current wrangler).
I'll have to wait and see what Jeep does with the gladiator, a 6k tow capacity would be fine as everything could be loaded in the airstream and still have plenty of payload left in the vehicle and trailer as we never bring anywhere near a thousands pounds worth of extra stuff. I know the drivetrain they have can do it as even the uni body v6 grand Cherokee can tow 6200lbs, let's hope they don't gimp the rubicon version of the truck too much like Chevy has with the zr2. I'd be happy with a z71 with the lockers,tbh,as long as it kept the tow rating. In my use,I could use the traction more than the suspension articulation. Hopefully the jeep has both, but towing will probably depend on the roof configuration more than anything (which is what limits the current wrangler).
I am also looking at a ZR-2, diesel, for towing our 3500 lb camper. It only has 6 lb ft less than my 08' Hemi G-56 Power Wagon. It would be nice to have 2 vehicles to tow with. Maybe i will end up owning 2 vehicles that are record setters ! lol One that gets the worst mpg ever & one that gets the best ! lol
p nut
butter
I wouldn't hold my breath on the Wrangler truck's towing capacity. It's a play truck. Towing/payload won't be its forte.
Clutch
<---Pass
You would have to redo the suspension on the ZR2 to up the capacity, seems like it would better going with a different model and doing your own suspension. Probably be cheaper to.
plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
That's where the manufacturers miss the mark IMO. Things like the e-lockers should just be another checkmark on the options list for any model in the lineup.
Current (lwb) Wrangler can tow 5k lbs in countries other than the US - but they have to de-rate here due to the removable roof which is being re-worked in the new model. As I said, the GC can tow 6k+ and it's less heavy duty in pretty much every way compared to the outgoing Wrangler and has a shorter wheelbase, but we'll see. The Wrangler is a play thing sure, but the truck should actually be a truck or there's zero point to it and it won't sell.
p nut
butter
I'd think even given a 5k lb tow rating, actually towing the max load would be a chore. I've done that in an older Xterra. Not a fun trip.
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While I agree a truck should be a truck, there are many other reasons people choose a truck platform. "Trucks" like the Wrangler and say, a Tacoma TRD Pro (meager 1,100lb payload), are targeting a whole different audience than those that depend on their truck for work. Others for towing their 12k lb yacht and other toys. It's like saying a "boot should be a boot." _
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Wrangler truck will serve its purpose, but again, not on the towing/payload front.
Clutch
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Totally agree. Do not care for how the manufactures package vehicles. In this day and age with a plethora of endless choices out there, you would think you could build a vehicle exactly how you want it À la carte. It isn't like humans play much of a role anymore in assembling these things...robots do much of the work. Just plug in your options that you want and a machine does most of the work.
I would do an Extra Cab Work Truck model, diesel, 4WD, manual trans, heavy duty suspension, rear locker, vinyl/rubber interior. Done. Oh yeah...in grey paint please.
Of course you can nearly get that setup overseas.
https://www.holden.com.au/cars/colorado/4x4-range/space-cab-chassis-ls#specifications
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plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
Those holdens look better also.
Clutch
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I dunno, like the Chevy version better (do not like the GMC Canyon...too bulbous and that codpiece grill...yikes! All I see is Cameo when I see a GMC!
)The Collie is clean and simple. Not over the top...like most vehicles these days. Like it much better than the current Tacoma styling.
dman93
Adventurer
The problem is the dealer channel for selling vehicles, at least in the US. Impulse buy, use financing, etc so the dealers have to stock what they think will sell AND make money. Whereas if you could buy direct from the manufacturer, modern computerized configuration tools and build-to-order supply chains would make it easy to get what you want. Kinda like Dell's model for building PC's when they were still assembled on-shore 15 years ago.