2019 Ford Ranger Taking Orders

[zimm]

The fleet I manage is all fords and all police vehicles ranging from explorers, Taurus, f150. I do communicate with the person that manages a road maintenance fleet, again all fords and trucks. We buy fords and many government fleets do because ford will sell their government fleet products at at extremely reduced price. I currrently have a 2017 expoloer with 9k, it’s on it’s 3rd battery, 2nd water pump, new wireing for the turn signals, new brakes and it rattles and clangs like a 30 year old vehicle. I can go down the list of problems we have had with fairly new vehicles that would surprise you. As far as the f250 and f350, the newer 2011 plus have been reliable, prior to that they were riddled with problems. The new 6.2 and 6.7 have been very good, the early 6.7 has a few issues, but according to the mechanic, fords are a total pain in the ass to work on. They had a 98 dodge 3500 cummins they just got rid of, he was pissed, said it was the last problem free truck that was easy to service, still has its original trans.

I would consider a f250 with the 6.2 or even the 6.7... but don’t plan on working on that yourself.

For a small truck, Nissan or Toyota.

weve been using fords and chevys for 30 years. the only gripe we've ever had, was the wonky steering linkage on econolines. other than tht, the ford body's tended to hold up better, but not so much as to really matter.

outside of any real statistical evidence of one brand lasting longer without service, over another, (which doesnt exist) i think people just like to gripe about something so they look informed.

 

[Explorerinil]

weve been using fords and chevys for 30 years. the only gripe we've ever had, was the wonky steering linkage on econolines. other than tht, the ford body's tended to hold up better, but not so much as to really matter.

outside of any real statistical evidence of one brand lasting longer without service, over another, (which doesnt exist) i think people just like to gripe about something so they look informed.

Your right, I don’t have statistical data, but when you got a 2015 vehicle with 25k on it and it’s on its 2nd coil pack, 3rd water pump, 4th battery, 2nd radiator, and 3rd set of tires you begin to wonder about the quality... my dodge truck is at almost 40k, been running 37 inch tires since day one and it’s never been in the shop.

 

[Dalko43]

I'm eager to see the payload and towing #'s on the Ranger. I'm hoping for at least 1,400k lbs of payload and 6k-7k of towing.

The overseas Ranger is considered an overbuilt workhorse...I really hope Ford doesn't water down the NA version.

 

[ultraclyde]

I'm very interested. Priced out a 4dr gas FX4 XL nicely optioned to about $36k. That gets you all the skid plates, terrain management, and an e-locker. Word is that towing will be "best in class" which means better than or equal to Colorado's 7k on gas engines. That makes it strong enough to easily tow the 4500lb boat I keep looking at. Interestingly, that's about $5k less than a similarly equipped 2.7L F150, which only tows 8k lbs.

I generally prefer SUVs though, so I'll be waiting for solid info and the reveal of the Bronco before doing anything.

 

[Hillbilly Heaven]

I think you could consider the new Bronco to be in the size of the S10 Blazer. You have to consider they are coming from the Ranger line so imagine something comparable to the Ranger length and wheelbase.

 

[knoxswift]

Ah. Wasn't clear what you meant. Well you can get a super cab with the rear seat deleted (factory option). I know it isn't the same.

Another thing that was surprising to me, the locking rear diff seems to be an option on any configuration. So you can buy the XL 4x2 w/locking rear diff. Seems to be that every other manufacturer has you buy their super duper off road version before you can get a locker.

I did notice that about the locker. As well as to avoid most of the crazy driver limiting electronics you have to go with the XL.

I think I need to wait to test drive before I make any more comments like -- I don't think a 10 speed auto is going to make up for the 4cyl.....They need a Diesel or v6 option...but I guess we'll see soon enough.
I don't get the 3.73 gears...again comment on will 10 speeds make up for that?

With all the electronics, it's going to be difficult to Lift or alter from stock all those trac controls are going to go haywire unless the allow editing somehow.

 

[Buliwyf]

The trac controls are fine with lifts. The adaptable cruise control, headlight, and lane control sensors need recalibrated and might get twitchy. Stick with the XL's if you're going to get mod happy.

I'd get as much gear as possible. They didn't have any 4.88 F250's on the lot, so I have 3.73 for now.

 

[Saharafire]

Your right, I don’t have statistical data, but when you got a 2015 vehicle with 25k on it and it’s on its 2nd coil pack, 3rd water pump, 4th battery, 2nd radiator, and 3rd set of tires you begin to wonder about the quality... my dodge truck is at almost 40k, been running 37 inch tires since day one and it’s never been in the shop.

I work for a DOD fire department and like you mentioned with the government stuff we have all Ford f550 fire trucks. We can’t keep enough running to man stations the majority of the time. We have 12 and older trucks and have replaced multiple 6.7 and 6.4 engines in these trucks. I wouldn’t consider an older ford diesel of those year ranges for sure. If I was looking at a ford I think the only ones I’d consider would be a 6.2 superduty. That being said I’m gonna stick with Ram trucks because my 14 2500 6.4 has been rock solid and does everything I’ve asked of it without complaint.

 

[ultraclyde]

I think you could consider the new Bronco to be in the size of the S10 Blazer. You have to consider they are coming from the Ranger line so imagine something comparable to the Ranger length and wheelbase.

Not exactly. the new Ranger (and therefore the new Bronco) has dimensions much closer to an old square F150 than it is to the previous Ranger. You'll never see a pickup the size of the old S10 again from the big 3 in the US.

 

[erstwild]

I work for a DOD fire department and like you mentioned with the government stuff we have all Ford f550 fire trucks. We can’t keep enough running to man stations the majority of the time. We have 12 and older trucks and have replaced multiple 6.7 and 6.4 engines in these trucks. I wouldn’t consider an older ford diesel of those year ranges for sure. If I was looking at a ford I think the only ones I’d consider would be a 6.2 superduty. That being said I’m gonna stick with Ram trucks because my 14 2500 6.4 has been rock solid and does everything I’ve asked of it without complaint.

Thanks all! I appreciated all this feedback. It seems that my plan to buy a 2017-2018 F-250 6.2L gasser is not misplaced. I like other makers, but this seems like the best option that still has a regular cab, so I can keep overall length ~19ft for parking and maneuverability sake, 8 foot long bed, and ~3000lb payload.

 

[02rangeredge]

am I the only one who caught that for $240 they'll take out the rear seats in a supercab?

 

[DaveInDenver]

am I the only one who caught that for $240 they'll take out the rear seats in a supercab?

The resident curmudgeon @Clutch would like to hear that I think.

 

[Clutch]

The resident curmudgeon @Clutch would like to hear that I think.

Yep, already saw that and price one out. My version came in at $29,315. Why manufactures put rear seats in an Extra Cab midsize truck is beyond me, what it needs is a shelf with storage underneath, instead of worthless seats that no one can really use.

The early 2nd Gen Tacoma's kinda had it right, but those disappeared in later models.







Super Cab, 4WD, rear seat delete, vinyl flooring and seats...no locker, no tow package. Have a locker now and rarely use it...tow package is just receiver hitch (no extra trans cooler as far as I can tell), I can do one aftermarket for much cheaper than if Ford tossed it on.

Guessing (hoping?) a year after the release the incentives will come into play, and perhaps I could get that configuration fro around $25K. Assuming that 2.3 EcoBoost will lay down similar torque numbers to the Mustang's 350 ft/lbs. Will pretty much blow Toyota's base model SR out of the water.

 

[DaveInDenver]

The early 2nd Gen Tacoma's kinda had it right, but those disappeared in later models.

My rear seats are pretty much permanently flipped down position in the bi-level storage configuration. As much as I complain, the Access Cab in my 2008 just about nailed it. A utility SuperCab would be ideal. But it kind of seems backwards to get charged $240 to have them take stuff off my truck. Why wouldn't I just do that myself? It should at least be a no-cost delete.

 

[Clutch]

My rear seats are pretty much permanently flipped down position in the bi-level storage configuration. As much as I complain, the Access Cab in my 2008 just about nailed it.

*thumbs up*

yeah, they did those jump seats in yours right, makes some much sense to have them double as a shelf (or whatever you want to call it). later models...worthless as seats and worthless as storage.

Husky used to make a cargo liner for yours. Nearly impossible to find from what I have read.

. But it kind of seems backwards to get charged $240 to have them take stuff off my truck. Why wouldn't I just do that myself? It should at least be a no-cost delete.

Thought it was a $240 discount? Much like the $1715 discount the Tacoma SR *utility package is.





*Utility Package (4-Cyl. Access Cab): removes rear seats (seatbacks, headrests and seatbelts) along with rear cup holders. Adds black door handles, black mirror caps, black bumpers and fixed rear window.