All Terrain Warriors campers

[engineer]

In reply to the Mog comment, For a camper/expedition vehicle, great.
But someone like me who needs parts TODAY, NOW etc etc, the mog is no solution, as I have to wait for freight, or airbag (still next day).
The canter is a great little 5 year, throw away package.
I'd love to put a bus on this though....

How much John???? (he'll get sick of me asking for prices one day......)

 

[whatcharterboat]

How much John???? (he'll get sick of me asking for prices one day......)

Chocko, we just drew up a massive 8.5 m body for the back of a 18T 4x4 Mercedes Axxor . 350hp, 16speed Intelli-Shift, Parabolics. It's you all over.

 

[engineer]

Chocko, we just drew up a massive 8.5 m body for the back of a 18T 4x4 Mercedes Axxor . 350hp, 16speed Intelli-Shift, Parabolics. It's you all over.

Hehehehe...:victory:
Do you know who does the mogs now?
It used to be that W.A. mob that imported them and not Merc??
Last pricing I had on a mog was around 2-300K + GST
Pinz was 250k+gst+delivery from UK (cab chassis only)
Axor would be a bit better price-wise, but not as capable.
Did you know that benz are the only ones to my knowledge that will do a 7 year lease on their own machinery, may have changed though.

 

[whatcharterboat]

Do you know who does the mogs now?
It used to be that W.A. mob that imported them and not Merc??
Last pricing I had on a mog was around 2-300K + GST

Yep. It's still the WA guys. I'm not 100% on this but I believe the 500's are about $250k and the 5000's are well over $300k. I'll double check tomorrow and edit if I'm wrong or maybe someone else knows the exact prices. The Axxor are only around the $170K mark depending on the spec. Actually we looked the big Scania and the 18ton military style MAN as alternatives and they were all within $10K of each other so the final cab/chassis decision will be tough. They are all so good for the money. A new 13Ton Isuzu FTS 800 is $150K!!

Hey CHocko , you'll love this. The smaller TGM 13/15.290 MAN can only be stretched to a 5500 wheelbase because of a software issue. You have to nominate the wheelbase into the computer to program the braking system. The program only has fields up to 5500mm. Probably long enough anyway but that's not the point. Software restricting the build. So 8.3 is the max body possible for that truck with our overhang laws.

 

[engineer]

That would actually make a nice 20-25 seater day tour truck!!!
as you know, I love the "short" look!!!

 

[kerry]

I have just finished reading the doubledutch diaries, I am surprised they have had so many problems in such a short time, and his lack of 4wd knowledge is a little worrying.

Where did you find the doubledutch diaries? I'd like to read them.

 

[1Engine]

Where did you find the doubledutch diaries? I'd like to read them.

Hi Kerry,
You can find it here
www.doubledutchworldsafari.com

Dave Wade

 

[63tlf8]

In reply to the Mog comment, For a camper/expedition vehicle, great.
But someone like me who needs parts TODAY, NOW etc etc, the mog is no solution, as I have to wait for freight, or airbag (still next day).
The canter is a great little 5 year, throw away package.
I'd love to put a bus on this though....

I'll never say that a MOG is the the answer to everything and its overkill for most, just a great example of an integrated engineering solution for an off road chassis. It's the way of the world but most new vehicles are less expedition friendly due to software and blue technology or ULSD requirements in their countries of origin, so it becomes harder to select something suitable with each passing year.

Pragmatically I'm still in the dark ages for this application where self repair is a possibility so the U1300 / 1700 series is my ideal compromise solution between ability and serviceability. Equally, the old 911 MB Trucks and even old Bedfords and the like do the job, but without the panache of later vehicles. If you get 5 years out of a Canter under those conditions then you have little to be concerned about.

Tony

 

[kerry]

Hi Kerry,
You can find it here
www.doubledutchworldsafari.com

Dave Wade

Thanks Dave, don't know why that wasn't showing up on a google. I'm sorry to hear of their problems, especially dealing with warranty issues on a relatively new vehicle. Having never owned a new vehicle, it's something I'm not familiar with.
I've sometimes questioned my own decision to buy a used Fuso, but it's arguably a viable alternative to buy a used non-computerized vehicle, do a lot of maintenance and carry a lot of spares. Of course that could all be a rationalization related to my economic condition.

 

[1Engine]

Thanks Dave, don't know why that wasn't showing up on a google. I'm sorry to hear of their problems, especially dealing with warranty issues on a relatively new vehicle. Having never owned a new vehicle, it's something I'm not familiar with.
I've sometimes questioned my own decision to buy a used Fuso, but it's arguably a viable alternative to buy a used non-computerized vehicle, do a lot of maintenance and carry a lot of spares. Of course that could all be a rationalization related to my economic condition.

I am a bit the same way as with an older truck, mine is a 2002 Isuzu NPS. When I was in at the local Isuzu dealer the other month, they were telling me of a few of the electronic issues they were having in this area with the 4x4's (the power company has about 25 in the area & using them in the remote areas) 7 having to drive 300+kms in limp home mode due to a speed sensor. In the long run we will use more fuel.However I only dream of doing 64mph.
You do have to admit they are easy to work on, no guards to lean/ reach over etc
I prefer the KISS principle.

 

[engineer]

Hey Wadey,
If you put in a rebuilt Isuzu 3.9 in that, it'll go like a cut snake!!!!
I'll keep an eye out for a low K 3.9 turbo intercooled.....
Chock

 

[1Engine]

Hey Wadey,
If you put in a rebuilt Isuzu 3.9 in that, it'll go like a cut snake!!!!
I'll keep an eye out for a low K 3.9 turbo intercooled.....
Chock

I am currently looking at putting a Turboglide setup on it.
Started chasing around on who will give a Qld Mod plate for the Air Intake (A2),Turbo(A3), & Exhaust Mods(A4) - My engine only has 142000kms on it.
Any Suggestions for an authorized officer, as the car guys as soon as they find out it is bigger than a cruiser they don't want to know me

 

[engineer]

Try Lindsay Stone in Townsville
Livingstone automotive
Mt Louisa Townsville
(07) 4774 8807
He's done alot with our 6 wheelers, they tried to pin us on adr80 when we converted the cruisers from car to bus which was an ME, but I told him to do a conversion rather than a second manufacturer and we reatined the 2002 build.
He is one of the best out there, and easier to get a hold of than Bleakley.

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi. If anyone's interested there is an article on the MAN we built a few months back in the current "Caravan & Motorhome" magazine (Issue 146, p.167 -170, 211).

John.

 

[DzlToy]

How about a link for those who cant get that mag? (or the MAN)