An M8000 Warn weighing less than 50lbs.?

[Desertdude]

Thanks James - I have read through the Slee tech article and will follow it to the tee

have you thought about offering up the icon labels on your site?

 

[Willman]

My M8000 is in and hooked up! OEM dash controls too
It took awhile to finish all the wiring- bit here and there as I had time. Really happy w/ the result!

Now from this thread I know I am approx. at 45lbs. which is great.

I have a cutoff at the battery so the winch wil not work even if you mess w/ the control box or interior controls.

see here for pics
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=106252

Great looking setup man!!!

Where did you get your all your rocker switches???..link???

 

[Life_in_4Lo]

willman, thanks!
I got the light switches from the TOyota dealer part #00550-35976

you can see at the bottom of page here (w/ shipping $ it is same price as dealer)
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/switches_illuminated_rocker.asp

The winch control switches I got on ebay. They are from a 89-90 4Runner, I think. Although many different Toyota models will probably fit. For example the rear defrost (winch on/off) I think is from a old Corolla or Camry...

Good thing on ebay, the OEM switches are cheap!

 

[Lost Canadian]

M8000 without controller or rope: 33lbs.

Ok so I've taken some notes from Scott's playbook and have incorporated some of the idea's with my truck.

Now I weighed everything and all my before weights matched Scott's, all except the winch itself. My M8000 with everything removed weighed in at 38lbs. My question is did something change with the M8000 that would account for the 5 extra pounds? Does the CE designation make a difference? I am happy with my outcome as I removed 22 lbs of cantilvevered weight going with synthetic rope and delrin rollers. Moving the controler back near the fire wall also moved 9 lbs of weight that was cantilvevered from the front for better distribution. I was hoping to get everything down close to 50 lbs total but at the moment the best I could muster was 57 lbs, still not bad, I'm glad I did it. Thanks for the idea Scott.
Here's the pics.

 

[Beowulf]

That is one pretty fairlead. Might have to add that to the list.

 

[LAW]

since the old thread was dug up ill share some control relocations

 

[ntsqd]

Since this has been pulled out of the archives......

I originally intended to wire a second control socket in the cab of the YJ from Hell, but the owner wanted switches so he got Contura to match the rest of the added switches. I had to 'manufacture' the exact reversing switch from a couple Conturas as there are none cataloged that do what we needed it to do.
On my 'glass bodied dune buggy I put the only remote control socket directly under the steering column and the relays (4 Ford Starter relay solenoids - 2.5k lbs winch) under the body just above the transaxle. With a 20' self-coiling cord from McMaster I can be in, on, under, or around the DB and still operate the winch from the one socket.

Surprise Canyon is one reason for long winch cables. The cable length of an 8274 is nearly perfect there. Can do the whole falls in 2 pitches if you set the first one correctly.
Somewhere around here I posted about testing synth line to failure. The reason for the test was to see what it took to fail some of the 1/4" stuff. I have a local marine vendor who can supply Amsteel in 1/4" or 3/8" (no 5/16") and the 1/4 got me to thinking about how much I could spool on an M8k if it were up to the job. It's rating is such that I wasn't sure about it. The test proved it to not be viable on an M8, but on the DB's winch.......

Then again, I've owned my M8 since buying it used at the second ever LeDuc Off Road Swap Meet and fixing it's motor (paid $25 for it) it's been trampled under foot, sans cable, in my garage.

 

[Willman]

Where did you get your winch line saver? (The black rubber thing)

Something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Winc...ryZ43984QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Seems like a little to much $$$$$$$........

I too am working on getting a M8000 and getting it to weight less than 50 lbs.........

 

[bigreen505]

I have a local marine vendor who can supply Amsteel in 1/4" or 3/8" (no 5/16") and the 1/4

Not to be the terminology police here, but make sure you post the full and correct name of the line you use. There is a huge difference between Amsteel and Amsteel Blue. The difference in breaking strength in the 1/4" size between Amsteel (SK-60 Dynema) and Ultrex (high quality SK-75 Dynema) is 3,000 lb. I think Amsteel Blue is somewhere in between. The difference in price between Amsteel and Ultrex in the 1/4" size is only 20 cents a foot.

EDIT: Just to clarify, breaking strength of 1/4" Amsteel is listed at 6,600 lb. and the same size Ultrex is listed at 9,600 lb. Amsteel in 1/4" is $1.13/ft and Ultrex is $1.37/ft.

 

[big sky trapper]

I love that roadless gear controller, I havnt used the hand held controller since i installed it. ( http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4917&page=4) I still use it for resetting the line back on the spool to keep things tidy. But still running the stock 55 amp alt, it makes keeping the RPMS up a little to not totally kill the battery/charging. and still run the winch. In and old (84) cab it tucked beutifull in one of the dash pockets.

 

[ntsqd]

Not to be the terminology police here, but make sure you post the full and correct name of the line you use. There is a huge difference between Amsteel and Amsteel Blue. The difference in breaking strength in the 1/4" size between Amsteel (SK-60 Dynema) and Ultrex (high quality SK-75 Dynema) is 3,000 lb. I think Amsteel Blue is somewhere in between. The difference in price between Amsteel and Ultrex in the 1/4" size is only 20 cents a foot.

EDIT: Just to clarify, breaking strength of 1/4" Amsteel is listed at 6,600 lb. and the same size Ultrex is listed at 9,600 lb. Amsteel in 1/4" is $1.13/ft and Ultrex is $1.37/ft.

I used the correct name of the line locally available to me.

The Amsteel page at the time of my test listed the "Average Breaking Strength" of the Amsteel, Not the Amsteel Blue, in 1/4" as being quite a bit higher than the number you list. I do not recall the exact number, but it was sufficiently close enough to the M8's capacity to make testing a sample worthwhile.

If I do ever load the M8's drum with 1/4" it will be Blue. At this point that's unlikely. Over the span of about 5 years I built a winch bumper for my '84 yota, then bought the winch. The two have never met & now I'm contemplating removing the bumper & selling it. If the winch ever makes it into the field with me it will be on a 2" slider.

 

[Jacket]

Where did you get your winch line saver? (The black rubber thing)

I too am working on getting a M8000 and getting it to weight less than 50 lbs.........

If I'm not mistaken, Trevor (Lost Canadian) is out on an extended trip across eastern Canada, and may not be checking in here? Just an FYI

I thought I read that the line was Master-Pull - but nothing specifically about the saver.

 

[Willman]

Just ordered my Warn M8000 4wheelparts.com.......$530 out the door....not bad.....

Now time to put her on a diet.........

:chowtime:

 

[Jacket]

Just ordered my Warn M8000 4wheelparts.com.......$530 out the door....not bad.....

Now time to put her on a diet.........

:chowtime:

That's a great deal! Now I'm tempted....

 

[Westy]

Thats a real good price.

A couple times a year Offroadoverstock has a sale, $499 shipped but it just ended a month or so ago.