spressomon
Expedition Leader
Ditto, ditto and ditto :coffeedrink:. I just wish the darn iPad RAM mount wasn't 3-weeks out.
Apple Tablet: iPad
- Thread starter Scott Brady
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Ditto, ditto and ditto :coffeedrink:. I just wish the darn iPad RAM mount wasn't 3-weeks out.
From the iPhone 4 and the operating system upgrade that will accompany it, we can begin to piece together an idea about the changes that will be made to the second generation of the iPad.
1. iPad Gen 2 will have 512MB of RAM
According to rumors, the new iPhone 4 will have 512 MB of space reserved for applications to use. That's twice as much as the current iPad has (just 256 MB). The extra space will allow many applications to run simultaneously. Multitasking with devices like the iPhone 3GS and original iPad, with only 256 MB RAM, will be severely limited.
2. iPad gets a pair of cameras
The iPhone 4 has two cameras. One is in the back of the phone, facing away from the user. The second is in the front, facing the user. The cam facing the user primarily will be used for video chat (sorry, that's teleconferencing with important clients). IPad Gen 2 will get these two cameras.
3. iPad Gen 2 screen resolution will stay at 1024 x 768
It's too expensive to build a 9 inch screen with more pixels. A screen with a much higher pixel count would increase the drain on the battery, and force the graphics processing circuits to run at much higher speed. The iPad already has a problem with heat. The big screen would exacerbate the problem. Ergo, no change to the screen pixel count.
4. iPad Gen 2 gets iPhone 4 extras
Items like the microSIM, second mic for noise cancellation, the three axis gyroscope, tap-to-focus camera, and iMovie will be present in the second generation iPad.
5. Fewer iPad HD applications will be developed
The iPhone 4 has a very high resolution screen (960 x 640 pixels). That's almost as large as the iPad (1024×768 pixels). This means that applications designed for the iPhone 4 will look great running on the iPad. I expect this will diminish the number of applications available in iPad-specific form (labeled "HD").
What are your thoughts about the second generation iPad?
1. iPad Gen 2 will have 512MB of RAM
According to rumors, the new iPhone 4 will have 512 MB of space reserved for applications to use. That's twice as much as the current iPad has (just 256 MB). The extra space will allow many applications to run simultaneously. Multitasking with devices like the iPhone 3GS and original iPad, with only 256 MB RAM, will be severely limited.
2. iPad gets a pair of cameras
The iPhone 4 has two cameras. One is in the back of the phone, facing away from the user. The second is in the front, facing the user. The cam facing the user primarily will be used for video chat (sorry, that's teleconferencing with important clients). IPad Gen 2 will get these two cameras.
3. iPad Gen 2 screen resolution will stay at 1024 x 768
It's too expensive to build a 9 inch screen with more pixels. A screen with a much higher pixel count would increase the drain on the battery, and force the graphics processing circuits to run at much higher speed. The iPad already has a problem with heat. The big screen would exacerbate the problem. Ergo, no change to the screen pixel count.
4. iPad Gen 2 gets iPhone 4 extras
Items like the microSIM, second mic for noise cancellation, the three axis gyroscope, tap-to-focus camera, and iMovie will be present in the second generation iPad.
5. Fewer iPad HD applications will be developed
The iPhone 4 has a very high resolution screen (960 x 640 pixels). That's almost as large as the iPad (1024×768 pixels). This means that applications designed for the iPhone 4 will look great running on the iPad. I expect this will diminish the number of applications available in iPad-specific form (labeled "HD").
What are your thoughts about the second generation iPad?
Apple announced today that sales of the "revolutionary and magical" iPad have passed the 3 million mark world-wide. The iPad has been shipping for only 80 days.
The iPad section of the iTunes store now has 11,000 "HD" applications designed specifically for the iPad.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/apple-has-sold-three-million-ipads-in-80-days/
The iPad section of the iTunes store now has 11,000 "HD" applications designed specifically for the iPad.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/apple-has-sold-three-million-ipads-in-80-days/
adelatoa
Adventurer
Simply Magical to their pocket books. I want to work for APPLE....anyone know anyone there?
I love my IPad...besides being a great device all around its best as a "pooping-device". Magazines no longer take space in my restroom. Now that is magical...he he he:coffeedrink:
dzzz
™
1.7 million plus 1
I purchased mine on Sunday, so add at least 1 to the count
Too bad 10,999 are worthless
I purchased mine on Sunday, so add at least 1 to the count
Too bad 10,999 are worthless
gabepari
Explorer
This is the angle I used when trying to sell my wife on one :snorkel:
For now I'm still stuck browsing with my iPhone on the can...
Gabe
After the success of the Wired Magazine app for iPad (90,000 downloads @ $5), Conde Nast announced recently that they will publish a version of the venerable New Yorker Magazine for iPad.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31747_7-20008602-243.html
The workflow to create the iPad app starts with the magazine layout in Adobe InDesign CS5. Then the content passes through Adobe's experimental software called Digital Publishing Platform.
http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalpubli...use_digital_magazine_solution_from_adobe.html
The new software adds audio and video capability, 360 degree rotation to graphics, and hyperlinks to external web sites. The technology works for ads as well as editorial content. According to Adobe, the key word is "immersive."
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31747_7-20008602-243.html
The workflow to create the iPad app starts with the magazine layout in Adobe InDesign CS5. Then the content passes through Adobe's experimental software called Digital Publishing Platform.
http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalpubli...use_digital_magazine_solution_from_adobe.html
The new software adds audio and video capability, 360 degree rotation to graphics, and hyperlinks to external web sites. The technology works for ads as well as editorial content. According to Adobe, the key word is "immersive."
Today, Cisco Systems announced a "business-oriented" slate computer called the Cius. Rather than a 9 inch screen like the iPad, the Cius will have a 7 inch display. Because it's smaller, the Cius weighs about 30% less than the iPad does. The Cius will have data services through WiFi and a cell phone provider (none was announced today). The Cius runs the Android operating system.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/cisco-unveils-cius-android-tablet-with-hd-video-capabilities/
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11156/index.html
Like the iPhone 4, the Cius will have two cameras, including one pointed at the user for video conferencing. Cisco laready markets several telepresence applications, so mobile video conferencing is a natural fit.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/cisco-unveils-cius-android-tablet-with-hd-video-capabilities/
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11156/index.html
Like the iPhone 4, the Cius will have two cameras, including one pointed at the user for video conferencing. Cisco laready markets several telepresence applications, so mobile video conferencing is a natural fit.
Scott Brady
Founder
I am working hard to make this device work for my travels. It appears that I am also not alone in that quest. The first question to ask is - Why use the iPad at all? For me, it is actually quite simple, and comes down to three primary factors:
1. Space and weight. This device is small and slides easily in my camera bag. It is a fraction of the footprint of my MBP with the charging cable.
2. Durability and low cost of replacement: This device is simple and well constructed. If stolen, it would have a replacement cost of 25% of my MBP.
3. Excellent mapping capability. This device is really the finest navigation tool I have ever used. Now with the BT Stack GPS and being jailbroken, I have a half-dozen world-class tools at my disposal.
The intangible: There is something about using this device that is just simple, relaxing and easy. I can comfortably read a book on it in my tent, plug in speakers or to the vehicle for music and then do some powerful navigation and editorial work.
I am working through a series of problems, and thought some of you would benefit from my thoughts.
1. Don't bother with the 3G model. Sure, it is no big deal if you already have it, but it does not provide a better solution. Get the standard wifi unit and Jailbreak it with Spirit. Make sure you have not upgraded to iTunes 9.2.
2. The jailbroken ipad will then have access to the cydia store and community. This is key, as it provides several important solutions.
a. BTStack GPS: Run a SiRF Star 4 BT GPS unit - I had 3' of accuracy last night!
b. Install BTStack Keyboard: When the GPS is running, the native BT needs to be off. This allows fast typing
c. Install BTStack Mouse: Yep, a BT mouse works. Set the iPad up on the little stand and rip and tear on editorial, image work, etc.
c. iFile: Move files like in finder. Real time saver
The keyboard and mouse are certainly optional, and I would not bring them on a moto trip. The iPad is fully functional without them, but you lose some efficiency.
Current problems we are solving: Dealing with images-
Importing images: We got the Apple connection kit, and it works - mostly. The SD card reader they included is not necessary. Just plug in the camera in storage mode and the photo library will allow you to pull everything in. Upload critical/best images to mobileme iDisc for redundant storage. 64gb is plenty for one trip. The mobileme hosting allows me to remote host images for blog updates, etc.
Current Challenges on images: Editor
So far, Photogene seems to work the best. Would love to have an aperture iPad app. Getting images onto the expo image server is a little more difficult, but not impossible. The attachment manager allows uploaded from a URL, so I can upload images from the mobileme server if required.
Video: No sexy solution yet. More research required. Biggest challenge is the file format. However, we typically do not edit video files while traveling, so we just need to be able to make back-ups. Working through that now.
Joomla editor is bussed: Yep, the current Joomla editor is not working with the iPad. I expect a fix very soon. I have a work-around, but it is clunky at best. VBulletin works fine.
Email Archive: This is a critical discovery. I have 10gb of mail archive. Obviously, you cannot effectively store that on the iPad, so how to make it available for research on the road, and viewable on the iPad. It turns out Google has made that easy with GMAIL. By activating the IMAP function in GMAIL, you can connect to your GMAIL account by IMAP on the main machine (my laptop in this case) and then upload all of those tens of thousands of emails to the IMAP server. After that, it is accessible anytime you have an internet connection, anywhere in the world.
That is where I am at so far. The critical decision is. . . Take the iPad or MBP to Mongolia?
1. Space and weight. This device is small and slides easily in my camera bag. It is a fraction of the footprint of my MBP with the charging cable.
2. Durability and low cost of replacement: This device is simple and well constructed. If stolen, it would have a replacement cost of 25% of my MBP.
3. Excellent mapping capability. This device is really the finest navigation tool I have ever used. Now with the BT Stack GPS and being jailbroken, I have a half-dozen world-class tools at my disposal.
The intangible: There is something about using this device that is just simple, relaxing and easy. I can comfortably read a book on it in my tent, plug in speakers or to the vehicle for music and then do some powerful navigation and editorial work.
I am working through a series of problems, and thought some of you would benefit from my thoughts.
1. Don't bother with the 3G model. Sure, it is no big deal if you already have it, but it does not provide a better solution. Get the standard wifi unit and Jailbreak it with Spirit. Make sure you have not upgraded to iTunes 9.2.
2. The jailbroken ipad will then have access to the cydia store and community. This is key, as it provides several important solutions.
a. BTStack GPS: Run a SiRF Star 4 BT GPS unit - I had 3' of accuracy last night!
b. Install BTStack Keyboard: When the GPS is running, the native BT needs to be off. This allows fast typing
c. Install BTStack Mouse: Yep, a BT mouse works. Set the iPad up on the little stand and rip and tear on editorial, image work, etc.
c. iFile: Move files like in finder. Real time saver
The keyboard and mouse are certainly optional, and I would not bring them on a moto trip. The iPad is fully functional without them, but you lose some efficiency.
Current problems we are solving: Dealing with images-
Importing images: We got the Apple connection kit, and it works - mostly. The SD card reader they included is not necessary. Just plug in the camera in storage mode and the photo library will allow you to pull everything in. Upload critical/best images to mobileme iDisc for redundant storage. 64gb is plenty for one trip. The mobileme hosting allows me to remote host images for blog updates, etc.
Current Challenges on images: Editor
So far, Photogene seems to work the best. Would love to have an aperture iPad app. Getting images onto the expo image server is a little more difficult, but not impossible. The attachment manager allows uploaded from a URL, so I can upload images from the mobileme server if required.
Video: No sexy solution yet. More research required. Biggest challenge is the file format. However, we typically do not edit video files while traveling, so we just need to be able to make back-ups. Working through that now.
Joomla editor is bussed: Yep, the current Joomla editor is not working with the iPad. I expect a fix very soon. I have a work-around, but it is clunky at best. VBulletin works fine.
Email Archive: This is a critical discovery. I have 10gb of mail archive. Obviously, you cannot effectively store that on the iPad, so how to make it available for research on the road, and viewable on the iPad. It turns out Google has made that easy with GMAIL. By activating the IMAP function in GMAIL, you can connect to your GMAIL account by IMAP on the main machine (my laptop in this case) and then upload all of those tens of thousands of emails to the IMAP server. After that, it is accessible anytime you have an internet connection, anywhere in the world.
That is where I am at so far. The critical decision is. . . Take the iPad or MBP to Mongolia?
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cshontz
Supporting Sponsor
I'd take the MBP. What you're attempting to accomplish, and mostly accomplishing with the iPad is extremely elegant. But you're going to great lengths to get the iPad to behave like a laptop, when your laptop is already equipped to handle these tasks. I think at the end of the day, the MBP is going to be more reliable and effective than the custom-configured iPad.
But I'm with you 100% on the merits of the iPad, and its potential as a mobile computer. I'm eager to see what you do with it.
But I'm with you 100% on the merits of the iPad, and its potential as a mobile computer. I'm eager to see what you do with it.
Nice work, Scott!
Where did you find the GPS with SiRFStar IV chip? I read online that some companies are preparing models with the SiRFStar IV, but I didn't see any for sale.
You mentioned using several excellent GPS apps. Are any of these not available to iPad 3G owners who run standard Apple software?
"Jailbreaking" the iPad is relatively safe. Most standard iPad apps will run under the modified OS. Remember to make a backup to iTunes of your iPad settings and content before jailbreaking it.
Apple has published a document warning against the perils of jailbreaking. Read it here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3743
The problems listed in Apple's document are uncommon. And it's possible to return to the standard factory settings by connecting the iPad to your computer running iTunes. But this is one of those "your mileage may vary" situations. You jailbreak at your own risk!
One issue a jailbroken iPad owner faces is that you can't take advantage of Apple's iTunes and OS upgrades right away. You have to wait for the jailbreak software developers to create a new program that works with Apple's upgrade. And then wait some more for the new jailbreak to be thoroughly tested. Usually the waiting is over in a couple of weeks.
The process works like this: Reset the iPad to standard configuration, update Apple's software, apply the new jailbreak, and reload your applications and data. This process is kind of fun for folks with a geeky bent, but it's a pain for the rest of us. Of course, you don't have to upgrade to Apple's new software if you don't want to.
Where did you find the GPS with SiRFStar IV chip? I read online that some companies are preparing models with the SiRFStar IV, but I didn't see any for sale.
You mentioned using several excellent GPS apps. Are any of these not available to iPad 3G owners who run standard Apple software?
"Jailbreaking" the iPad is relatively safe. Most standard iPad apps will run under the modified OS. Remember to make a backup to iTunes of your iPad settings and content before jailbreaking it.
Apple has published a document warning against the perils of jailbreaking. Read it here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3743
The problems listed in Apple's document are uncommon. And it's possible to return to the standard factory settings by connecting the iPad to your computer running iTunes. But this is one of those "your mileage may vary" situations. You jailbreak at your own risk!
One issue a jailbroken iPad owner faces is that you can't take advantage of Apple's iTunes and OS upgrades right away. You have to wait for the jailbreak software developers to create a new program that works with Apple's upgrade. And then wait some more for the new jailbreak to be thoroughly tested. Usually the waiting is over in a couple of weeks.
The process works like this: Reset the iPad to standard configuration, update Apple's software, apply the new jailbreak, and reload your applications and data. This process is kind of fun for folks with a geeky bent, but it's a pain for the rest of us. Of course, you don't have to upgrade to Apple's new software if you don't want to.
dzzz
™
or the macbook air
but he is talking about carrying it in his camera bag
I'm unclear what functionality is improved over working with a stock 3G ipad. A major feature of Apple is to do it their way.
"Don't bother with the 3G model...it does not provide a better solution."
Well, as long as you don't put any value on having the 3G data service!
If WiFi is enough, then GPS on the jailbroken iPad is similar to GPS on the standard 3G. For vehicle navigation purposes, the 3G's GPS accuracy to within 15 feet works for me.
Well, as long as you don't put any value on having the 3G data service!
If WiFi is enough, then GPS on the jailbroken iPad is similar to GPS on the standard 3G. For vehicle navigation purposes, the 3G's GPS accuracy to within 15 feet works for me.
Ozrockrat
Expedition Leader
Macbook or iPad for Mongolia???
Maybe its the places I go or the people I hang about with :Wow1: but I tend to look at my gear in a couple of ways. Apart from having to do its desired purpose (i.e. in this case whatever computing application you need) I look at:
But I would like to see you take the iPad from a very selfish point of view as well. We want some real world feedback on how it works for this type of travel
Maybe its the places I go or the people I hang about with :Wow1: but I tend to look at my gear in a couple of ways. Apart from having to do its desired purpose (i.e. in this case whatever computing application you need) I look at:
- Can it help me placate the locals / win friends / influence people.
- Is it a good bargaining chip to keep me out of trouble.
- If I have to leave the vehicle and I want to take it with me is it portable enough.
- Is it robust enough to survive the trip.
But I would like to see you take the iPad from a very selfish point of view as well. We want some real world feedback on how it works for this type of travel