ha no worries. I saw the hard sided in person. Looked pretty good. Inside is nice with the single burner.
Boreas Campers EOS12
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Obsessed2findARuggedHybid
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My opinion as well but Boreas will not communicate with me. I must be on thier we don't want to sell a trailer to this guy sheet list
. Or they are changing thier mind on the hardside model or they are in trouble bissness wise. Hope its not the later.Cheapskate'sParadise
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Regarding the squat you can expect from a Cruisemaster XT Freestyle with Firestone airbags, you might get 85 mm instead of the 75 mm I get -- depending on the parts used. I am building a new (heavily modified) trailer, and I just learned this from the Australian drawings.
Regarding Boreas, I did not sense that they had a lot of capital to survive the orange terror when I last interacted with them. If true, then this is most unfortunate because the EOS platform is solid. Customers will spend again, but capital is required to weather the rough sledding ahead. I expect that the Overloading Expos will be sparse for a few years.
Regarding Boreas, I did not sense that they had a lot of capital to survive the orange terror when I last interacted with them. If true, then this is most unfortunate because the EOS platform is solid. Customers will spend again, but capital is required to weather the rough sledding ahead. I expect that the Overloading Expos will be sparse for a few years.
Chasingopenspaces
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Think you’re probably right generally, a lot of boutique manufacturers going to have some trouble. I know of two mountain bike companies that have bit the dust in the last couple months already, similar spending category/the first thing people cut from the budget when going gets tough. I hope boreas survives they make a great product
Cheapskate'sParadise
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Potentially useful for those with cash during the orange terror: Wife and I conducted a pop-in at a well-known craft builder (offroad trailers) recently. Wife was moderately interested in one of their models prior to visit. We stumbled onto a flea market/shutdown in progress. Website still up, no public admission of trouble, but owner base is pissed.
Wife converted from moderately to fully interested when we were able to purchase a new unit for $2000 cash. All serial numbers/manufacturing data was removed, and bill of sale was lawyered to reflect a "raw materials" status; our state issued its own serial number, so this cost us approx. $125 more than the normal registration pathway. During the normal times, dealers were asking $60k-ish; new units at dealers currently asking $40k-ish. Frame and suspension mods underway now. We are very curious to see the (fancy, fancy) Truma in action once the mods are complete -- our current heater is a fire waiting to happen.
We are already seeing more homeless souls when we boondock -- always present, but increased numbers are unmistakable. Wife is, for now, buying the concept that we go too remote to co-habitate with someone living in a car.
Wife converted from moderately to fully interested when we were able to purchase a new unit for $2000 cash. All serial numbers/manufacturing data was removed, and bill of sale was lawyered to reflect a "raw materials" status; our state issued its own serial number, so this cost us approx. $125 more than the normal registration pathway. During the normal times, dealers were asking $60k-ish; new units at dealers currently asking $40k-ish. Frame and suspension mods underway now. We are very curious to see the (fancy, fancy) Truma in action once the mods are complete -- our current heater is a fire waiting to happen.
We are already seeing more homeless souls when we boondock -- always present, but increased numbers are unmistakable. Wife is, for now, buying the concept that we go too remote to co-habitate with someone living in a car.
Spencer for Hire
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You talking a Boreas? Little confused on the connection here to the hardside.
Cheapskate'sParadise
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Our new trailer is not a Boreas -- Boreas does not have a dealer network, so far as I know -- I find no new units for sale on national sales portals.
At present, this thread is about struggling small American businesses that are failing, or have already failed, due to an unprecedented spectrum of challenges. In our case, we stumbled onto a non-public flea market of parts and finished goods. If Boreas is finished (and I hope they are not), then clever people near Pueblo CO might be able to plan (by drive-by visits, networking) their way into acquiring great product for a low price. I'd rather plan a deal than stumble into one.
Here is another way to think of it. In my area, large farms, industrial companies, and equipment dealers are dumping their inventory -- often new -- at auction houses. But I don't need a new track hoe. I think the craft camping builders will not dump at auction houses, and pride might keep them from marketing their closing sales. That's the case for our new trailer -- they could not admit to the fire sale, so there are far few customers, so the prices are very low.
Small business was the lifeblood of America.
At present, this thread is about struggling small American businesses that are failing, or have already failed, due to an unprecedented spectrum of challenges. In our case, we stumbled onto a non-public flea market of parts and finished goods. If Boreas is finished (and I hope they are not), then clever people near Pueblo CO might be able to plan (by drive-by visits, networking) their way into acquiring great product for a low price. I'd rather plan a deal than stumble into one.
Here is another way to think of it. In my area, large farms, industrial companies, and equipment dealers are dumping their inventory -- often new -- at auction houses. But I don't need a new track hoe. I think the craft camping builders will not dump at auction houses, and pride might keep them from marketing their closing sales. That's the case for our new trailer -- they could not admit to the fire sale, so there are far few customers, so the prices are very low.
Small business was the lifeblood of America.
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