D-ring Shackles and winch hooks

rich1833

Observer
About a year ago I was looking into Recovery gear and there reviews. Somewhere along the lines D-rings came into play. I think the most common for jeepers at least are 3/4". So I bought some 3/4" rated @ 4 3/4 Tons (9,500 lbs) shackles online. Buying a winch rated at 9,500 lbs I thought it was a good match. After receiving and installing the winch I realized the hook had no markings for weight and getting 2x strap ends inside the hook took some work. I started look for other options and found Factor 55's prolink that replaces the hook and allows you to use a 3/4" shackle but @ $150.00. I tried fitting the 3/4'' shackle onto the 3/8" winch line but it was a no go. Then I came across these 5/8″ 5 Ton Alloy Forged Shackle with Alloy Pins. They claim the Ultimate Load 54,000 lbs. So smaller and stronger whats not to love. For the last year I've used both shackle and hook on the winch but prefer the shackle a lot more. I really thinking about cutting the hook off as I don't leave the shackle on because it gets to bulky with both.

5/8" Shackle and hook on 3/8" winch line.



Hook with no weight markings




To show the size difference 7/8 VS 3/4 VS 5/8





Not my video but good info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_S7MjzlwJI
 

Inyo_man

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
Very nice write up!

I would also advise purchasing shackles and winches that are made in a country using quality metal in production.
 

Stumpalump

Expedition Leader
When your rig is about to float down the wash, tittering on a slick embankment at night or a buddy is wedged in his rolled and burning rig you will wish you left the hook on. Have you ever seen a shackle pin roll down a hill? You will as you have a death stomp on the break pedal that's holding your rig on the cliff just as you bark instructions to the shackle challenged winch wench while he holds his....smartphone.
 

rich1833

Observer
Good point, maybe I just need a bigger or different hook. Because getting two ends of a tree strap is very difficult on my hook.
 

IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
When your rig is about to float down the wash, tittering on a slick embankment at night or a buddy is wedged in his rolled and burning rig you will wish you left the hook on. Have you ever seen a shackle pin roll down a hill? You will as you have a death stomp on the break pedal that's holding your rig on the cliff just as you bark instructions to the shackle challenged winch wench while he holds his....smartphone.

Or you drop it in POWDER :sombrero:



I use a bit of paracord to tether the pin to the shackle

yes, it helps! :Wow1:
 

Retired Tanker

Explorer
Will the shackle fit into the mouth of the hook? If so, couldn't you just put the 2x strap ends into the shackle, pin it, and then drop it into the hook?
 

thethePete

Explorer
^ That one just seems like a no-brainer, since they put a hole in the pin for that very reason, and yet no one (including myself for the most part) seems to take the time to do it.
 

Lucky j

Explorer
Perso, i used both.

Use a shackle to secure both end of a strap and the hook goes on the loop of the shackle.
 

rich1833

Observer
Here is what happens most of the time. Notice its not closed.



Even when its closed it doesn't sit very straight.



Shackle with same tree saver Much better to me.


 

rich1833

Observer
Perso, i used both.

Use a shackle to secure both end of a strap and the hook goes on the loop of the shackle.

My personal opinion if to have the least amount of metal in the system. That's one of the reasons I like synthetic winch line. It's a saftey factor for me.
 

thethePete

Explorer
^ That seems like your best solution. Funny, I just had the one off our boom truck yesterday and didn't even think of it. Keep them both in your rig and suit up with the shackle, or the clevis hook as needed.
 

robert

Expedition Leader
My personal opinion if to have the least amount of metal in the system. That's one of the reasons I like synthetic winch line. It's a saftey factor for me.

The less jewelry you have in place the fewer potential failure points you have.

I leave my hook in place, but I can remove it by pulling the pin and replacing it with a shackle when desired.
 

rich1833

Observer
Using a clevis style hook you add it or remove it as needed.


I think this would be my best bet. Cut mine of and then buy a good clevis style hook and then I can switch back and forth. Now to find a good one that fits the strap better.
 

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