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[jeepdreamer]

Saw this today and never knew GM was putting diesels in kinda current Caddys? Anyone know anything about these? While my guess is that it would be pretty complex wiring wise, It would have to have a decent ride, power, and compactness to be in such a fancy-schnamcy car...wouldn't it?
*note* its a link to a classifieds site us Military folks use. No affil etc blah blah... just thought the fancy Caddy with a diesel was neat.

http://grafyardsales.com/item28221361.html?itemId=28221361&ref=mostRecent

 

[wyojoe]

jeepdreamer, I checked out that ad for the Caddy. While reading it, I see that it consumes 27 gallons of fuel per 60 miles!!! (yikes!) I'm sure there was an error on the math. It should have been closer to 2 gallons per 60 miles, based on the 7.6l per 100km estimate.

I also did not know GM was making Caddys with diesels. It would be interesting to see them offer one here in the US, but I don't think it will happen.

 

[jeepdreamer]

Yeah... I see a lot of locals add stuff for sale on the site and there is frequent errors. Not like I can fault them since my German speaking ability is limited to beer and ....uh, stuff. I'm just curious to know what kind of set up this is? Displacment, tranny bolt pattern...HP & TQ numbers... I doubt it would be very easy to swap since the fancy cars get so much electronic mumbo jumbo stuff that is probably intergrated but still interesting to note.

 

[haven]

I checked online. The Cadillac BLS was a model developed by SAAB in the years when SAAB was owned by GM. The car is based on the SAAB 9-3. The diesel engine was a Fiat 1.9L four cylinder. The BLS sold poorly, but because it's based on models that did sell well, it should be possible to get it serviced in Europe.

 

[haven]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/30/2012-mercedes-e-300-bluetec-hybrid-quick-spin-review/

The reviewer describes a Mercedes E300 station wagon, powered by a diesel electric hybrid powerplant. The diesel part is the 2.2L turbodiesel with about 360 ft lb of torque; the electric motor can add up to 180 ft lb. A 7 speed transmission powers the rear wheels. Result: An observed 44 mpg (US gallons) during the test drive. Not bad for a 4400 lb vehicle!

The electric part of the equation is interesting in its small size. The Lithium Ion battery pack and components to recharge it adds only 200 lb. The electric component is able to power the vehicle by itself only for 1000 yards. But it has enough juice to help start the vehicle rolling, and to keep moving in stop and go traffic.

 

[SSF556]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/30/2012-mercedes-e-300-bluetec-hybrid-quick-spin-review/

The reviewer describes a Mercedes E300 station wagon, powered by a diesel electric hybrid powerplant. The diesel part is the 2.2L turbodiesel with about 360 ft lb of torque; the electric motor can add up to 180 ft lb. A 7 speed transmission powers the rear wheels. Result: An observed 44 mpg (US gallons) during the test drive. Not bad for a 4400 lb vehicle!

The electric part of the equation is interesting in its small size. The Lithium Ion battery pack and components to recharge it adds only 200 lb. The electric component is able to power the vehicle by itself only for 1000 yards. But it has enough juice to help start the vehicle rolling, and to keep moving in stop and go traffic.

I believe this is the future...diesel hybrids. Way to go Mercedes.

 

[SSF556]

2014 Mazda6 Diesel Due in Late 2013

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/07/2014-mazda6-diesel-due-in-late-2013.html

 

[obkook]

I believe this is the future...diesel hybrids. Way to go Mercedes.

+1

 

[Clutch]

200 mph 69 mpg's, multi-fuel diesel.

Might be a unicorn though, read below:

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...car-trident-icini-promises-200-200130777.html

 

[2025 deleted member]

If it does have the duramax in it as they speculate. I think the front to rear weight ratio would be terrible. Should win burnout competitions though.

200 mph 69 mpg's, multi-fuel diesel.

Might be a unicorn though, read below:

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...car-trident-icini-promises-200-200130777.html


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[haven]

Land Rover has confirmed that the European version of the new Range Rover will have a diesel electric drive train as an option. The lithium ion battery pack is mounted in such a way that it's protected from obstacles. The diesel electric model has the same depth rating for fording a stream as the standard gas engine model.

The diesel-electric is a half-second slower to 60 mph, compared to a model with the standard 5.0L gas V8. But the diesel-electric model is expected to return 37 mpg (US gallons) on the European mpg cycle for combined city and highway driving. For comparison, the 2012 Range Rover gets a pitiful 14 mpg using premium gas in combined driving, according to the EPA.

If Range Rover gets its diesel-electric hybrid drivetrain approved for USA use, then the 3.0L V6 diesel engine by itself should have no difficulty getting approved. That would make a sweet combination with the LR4.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/06/deep-dive-2013-range-rover-bows-in-london-diesel-hybrid-confir

 

[haven]

Porsche is planning to add a second diesel engine option for the Cayenne SUV. According to Autoblog, the Cayenne S diesel will use a turbocharged 4.2-liter diesel V8 with 382 hp and 627 pound feet of torque. 0-60 takes 5.7 seconds. Top speed is 157 mph.

There are no plans to import the 4.2L diesel to North America. We're limited to the 3.0L diesel with 400+ b ft. The diesel Cayenne is a 2013 model, and should appear in Porsche showrooms soon.

 

[haven]

The 2013 Porsche Cayenne V6 diesel shows how well diesel can work in large SUVs. The EPA ratings are out for the Cayenne's lineup for 2013.

Cayenne 3.0L diesel -- $56,000 -- 400 ft lb -- 19 mpg city/29 mpg highway
Cayenne 3.0L gas/ electric Hybrid -- $70,000 -- 428 ft lb combined -- 20 city/24 highway
Cayenne with 3.6L V6 gas engine -- $49,000 -- 295 ft lb -- 16 city/23 highway
Cayenne S with 4.2L V8 gas engine -- $66,000 -- 370 ft lb -- 16 city/22 highway

The diesel Cayenne offers more mpg and better torque for less money. All diesel Cayennes have an 8 speed automatic and full time AWD.

The diesel in the Cayenne will be used by Audi and VW in USA for 2013. I expect the EPA ratings for the Touareg and Q7 diesels to be close to the Porsche's.

 

[haven]

This year's Paris Auto Show is under way. Among the cars on display is a VW Golf with a new Diesel engine. It's a 1.6L four cylinder turbo motor that provides 184 ft lb of torque. With the help of lighter weight, engine stop-start, and improved aerodynamics, this Golf Bluemotion returns better than 70 mpg (US Gallons) on the European mpg tests.

That's impressive efficiency for a standard four door vehicle that seats 5. And it doesn't require exotic or expensive technology to achieve it.

The Golf Bluemotion will go on sale in Europe next summer. No plan to export the 1.6L engine to USA has been announced. We are more likely to get the 2.0L version of this new engine. The new 2.0L produces substantially more torque than the current VW 2.0L diesel, but does require urea injection to clean up the exhaust. Here's an article that describes the new Diesel engine.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/detailed-vw's-new-2-0-liter-ea288-four-cylinder-tdi-diesel/

And here's an article about the 1.6L model shown in Paris.
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/09/26/vw-golf-bluemotion-concept-is-a-diesel-looker-worth-73-5-mpg

 

[Redline]

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The Golf Bluemotion will go on sale in Europe next summer. No plan to export the 1.6L engine to USA has been announced. We are more likely to get the 2.0L version of this new engine. The new 2.0L produces substantially more torque than the current VW 2.0L diesel, but does require urea injection to clean up the exhaust.
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Urea is the one thing I'd really like to avoid on a new diesel car. However, the window of opportunity to replace our VW TDI with a new one that doesn't require urea is going to pass very soon and before we're ready to buy.