Do you feel the need to have a weapon when camping

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GregSplett

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What happens if I cut you off on the road and then flip you off? What if you are drunk and bump into my wife in the parking lot. And I tell your drunk *** to "blank" off. And then stick my finger an inch from your face? You consider that an assault, a mortal threat or just appropriately invading your space. What's your response? Yours maybe measured and appropriate but don,t for one second that the narcissistic gamer generation will respond appropriately.

Should I go around wondering if someone carrying a pistol just lost their dog and broke up with their girlfriend?

Scratch the surface of a human and you get not much more than a pissed off chimp. Now let it walk around with a gun all the time.

This is a waste of time.

The logic goes, well he is armed so I gotta be armed.

Brilliant.

Blah, blah, blah.

This is a fine example of how some peoples thought process is controlled by their emotions.This person lives life thinking everybody around him is like himself and can not make decisions past his emotions.No critical thought process and spends his life gripped in fear that everybody around him is like himself.

news flash....they are not.
 

precision powder

Backwoods Explorer
This is a fine example of how some peoples thought process is controlled by their emotions.This person lives life thinking everybody around him is like himself and can not make decisions past his emotions.No critical thought process and spends his life gripped in fear that everybody around him is like himself.

news flash....they are not.

He also seems to think the right to self defense ends at your door step.
 

Wilbah

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I always have a weapon when camping or hiking. Of course....I usually have one when I am close to home too. "Savage beasts" don't start and end with bears and other four legged critters of the animal kingdom. Some of the worst (most actually) are the two legged kinds. And I feel its my obligation to my family to protect myself as well as them, and that obligation extends to when I am alone or with them.

I would not do my family any favors if I ended up dead from a bear, a mountain lion or a meth head. As for whether I would help others, yes, I have and will continue to do so. While our society is a mess its still better here than any other place on the globe I would wish to live so I will take steps to make it better for everyone.

We have cops to help but in most situations the best they can do is get there after the event has occurred. Not their fault or any one else's. It is what it is. I carry my bee sting kit with me because if I am hours from a doctor with epinephrine those minutes matter. I carry a weapon for the same reason. Its a tool, nothing more nothing less. While I have never "used it" meaning drawn it on anyone, I have had situations where I was glad I had it holstered and glad the other people noticed. Maybe they would have responded the way they did if I had a bowie knife as well, I will never know. But it served its purpose just being there as far as I could tell.

I also carry wrenches, screw drivers, belts, hoses etc. I am happy when I don't need to use my wrenches. I am also happy I have never needed to use a gun. But it doesn't mean I don't need one or shouldn't have one because the next situation may be different. I have never used my fire insurance on my house either, but doesn't mean I going to cancel it because I have never used it.
 
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calicamper

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I find this topic to be strictly an "AMERICAN" thing. And funny enough American's do not travel even remotely as much as the rest of the world. Which case I associate this topic to be 100% American paranoia due to a severe lack of Adventure beyond its own borders. Most people with extensive traveling experience due to both regulations and lots of experience do not carry weapons. This is strictly an American thing and a very low % of American's at that.
 
Most places aren't as dangerous as the US either....I found it funny how amazed every over lander we met freaked out at us being 'Mericans. ...

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brushogger

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I find this topic to be strictly an "AMERICAN" thing. And funny enough American's do not travel even remotely as much as the rest of the world. Which case I associate this topic to be 100% American paranoia due to a severe lack of Adventure beyond its own borders. Most people with extensive traveling experience due to both regulations and lots of experience do not carry weapons. This is strictly an American thing and a very low % of American's at that.

Not exactly true. I think you'll find that people around the world camping in remote areas where man is not the top of the food chain are armed in one way or another.
 

Wilbah

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I find this topic to be strictly an "AMERICAN" thing. And funny enough American's do not travel even remotely as much as the rest of the world. Which case I associate this topic to be 100% American paranoia due to a severe lack of Adventure beyond its own borders. Most people with extensive traveling experience due to both regulations and lots of experience do not carry weapons. This is strictly an American thing and a very low % of American's at that.

many countries have laws preventing (sadly) their citizens from carrying firearms. Does that make them some how "more safe"? I don't think so.
Do you disagree with those in Canada who carry weapons too? Or is your comment only directed at Americans? And while you can call it "paranoia" the fact remains that certain situations are best handled with a gun. Not all no, but some are. And just as there are certain tools that are right for the job of changing a tire, there are certain tools that are right for protecting yourself against other types of animals. Its a tool. It should not create all sorts of hand-wringing and teeth gnashing by those who choose not to carry one.
Ironically guns being carried by others are one of the few things that protect others who choose not to carry. With most things you have to take advantage of the item to benefit- seat belts for example. If you choose not to buckle up, you do not receive their protection if you're in a crash. But in areas where many people are armed, criminals usually change their behavior because they don't know who has a gun and who doesn't. Thus even if you don't carry one, you benefit from those who do. Now in rural environments or if your foe is an angry bear or cougar that won't matter spit. You either have the means to protect yourself or you don't.
I like to have the ability to try. Not that it guarantees anything. But I want a chance.
Just my $0.02. But whether I carry or not it shouldn't cause others worry and angst.
 

quickfarms

Adventurer
And some countries require there citizens to be in the reserves and take there service weapons home.

In some countries you can not own a handgun but you can own a fully operational tank

A lot of countries will allow you to legally transport your weapons and ammunition for sporting purposes
 

brushogger

Explorer
I know a man and his wife who both retired from teaching in Alaska 4 years ago and moved back to Oklahoma. They taught in a small town about 60 miles from Anchorage. He said there were about 90 students in the school grades 1-12. In the winter, all the kids walked or snowmobiled to school, and all from 4th or 5th grade and up carried rifles or shotguns. They were also expected to protect the young ones. The reason was the high chances of running across a bear or moose. He said the moose were actually a lot bigger problem than the bears. There was a gun rack in the principals office. The kids left the guns there and picked them back up when heading home. He also said that in this community, there had never been a recorded incident of any student or teacher being shot (even accidentally), but there had been many documented attempted attacks over the years by moose and bears. When the Feds passed the law banning guns within a certain distance of the school, the parents boycotted it saying it was too dangerous for the kids to not to be armed, so the principal ignored the law so the school could continue. Like I said, when you're not at the top of the food chain......, I guess it should be ok to allow a kid to be stomped into a mud spot by a moose in the name of safety. This is why these kids remain safe, while in Africa, babies have been torn from their mothers arms and eaten by bands of chimpanzees. Don't laugh. This actually happens.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0304/feature4/online_extra2.html

I picked this for a reason as it is your opinion of the average human.
Scratch the surface of a human and you get not much more than a pissed off chimp.

Now you know what a pissed off chimp is capable of.
These things happen now in areas that really are not that remote.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mountain-lion-suspected-of-attacking-boy-killed-in-california/

http://youtu.be/PEsa8xmmtbU

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...g=416,3417914&focus=viewport&output=html_text

I know all you really need is a pocket knife( said tongue firmly planted in cheek)
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/newshound/2012/02/father-stabs-mountain-lion-pocket-knife-save-son

But I prefer something that lets me keep a little more distance from large teeth and claws.

You don't even have to be in the woods. This was the mother of a family friend.
http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/04/2007-fatality-rosalie-bivins-killed.html?m=1

So you can be all touchy feeley kumbayah, but if this was your child or mother what would you do?
 
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GregSplett

Adventurer
I find this topic to be strictly an "AMERICAN" thing. And funny enough American's do not travel even remotely as much as the rest of the world. Which case I associate this topic to be 100% American paranoia due to a severe lack of Adventure beyond its own borders. Most people with extensive traveling experience due to both regulations and lots of experience do not carry weapons. This is strictly an American thing and a very low % of American's at that.

It is an american thing because we are a free country based on christian philosophy.Freedom has a cost of taking the good with the bad.We unlike much of the world still have the right to protect our family and home and from government trying to take these rights away.Progressives hate that part.

I for one am damn happy it is an american "thing".
 
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