Do you regret buying a base model truck?

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
A better way to phrase this question might be "did you regret buying a vehicle that didn't have the options you wanted?"

I was in that exact situation last year. Tons of low-mileage F-150's close to me in my price range. But it was darn near impossible to find the specific features I wanted: 36 gallon tank, E-locker, trailer brake controller, and heated (cloth) seats. And could not be black or dark blue.

Personally I could do without the heated seats - IMO heated seats are a real benefit on a vehicle with leather seats because leather gets very cold in winter and the heat is a nice way to offset that. But the wife insisted on the heated seats so I had to specify those as well. Happy wife, happy life etc.

Almost everything I wanted COULD have been added aftermarket (even the big tank, which several people on the F-150 forums have done.) But for what I was spending I figured I had the time to wait for exactly the right one to come along and I'm glad I did.
 

MTVR

Well-known member
Well that's a cute little truck.

Thanks! :)

The visual proportions of the truck are deceiving- with nothing else next to it, it could easily be mistaken for a 5-ton truck, or even a deuce and a half. The MTVR's cab is so large, that my wife can stand straight up inside, as long as she's not wearing high heels. In order to use the machinegun hatch (one of her favorite features), she has to fold down the passenger seatback and stand on it.

For perspective, here is a pic of an MTVR towing a 5-ton:20200531_113101.jpg
 
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MTVR

Well-known member
My wife named the truck "Grace", after the female Terminatrix "Grace" portrayed by MacKenzie Davis in the movie "Terminator: Dark Fate".

 
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IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
For what its worth, pretty much every vehicle that is CANBUS makes it very easy to add options that the truck was not purchased with.

I added things like remote start, puddle lights, steering wheel head unit controls, etc... to my bare bones XLT Superduty for very little money.

Only option we dont have that Id still like it the power folding mirrors, to be able to fold them in while driving.
Just the mirrors though are big $$, so its a feature Ill live without. :ROFLMAO:
 

blackdmax15

Observer
To hopefully be somewhat of value, I Custom ordered a 2018 Ram 3500 with a few specific options. Got the Cummins/Aisin for the power, dual 440A alternators and the HD vinyl seats due to the kids. Had Dennis Dillon Dodge add all the suspension and mods I wanted. My thought was get the chassis I wanted, save money not buying a Laramie or higher trim and use that for mods. I ended up about the same price a Laramie would have costed, but already built (Phase 1).

Fastforward almost two years and I have added bed LED lights, upgraded the headlights and just recently put a factory fog light bumper on to add BD SAE fogs and their squadron Pros. I have added a ton of 2-300 dollar mods along the way. I still want a better radio and the seats are mega uncomfortable and not super adjustable. I have some back issues from my time flying the plane in my avatar and I’m about to go with the Scheel-man seats or nice Recaro’s that are cooled and heated. I hear everyone’s point, but by the time I’m done with mods I would be in the price of that Laramie. All of my desired mods aren’t “required”, but Annoyances I could have avoided by buying the nicer truck from the start.

I do believe one can save coin by buying a stripped truck and modify it to your needs, but it will take a while to get there. I’m keeping the truck as of now and when I’m done it will be a better truck. I enjoy modifying my vehicles so it was my reason for going the route I did. I say buy as much truck as your wallet or wife will let you justify.
 

Redheddedwonder

Active member
To hopefully be somewhat of value, I Custom ordered a 2018 Ram 3500 with a few specific options. Got the Cummins/Aisin for the power, dual 440A alternators and the HD vinyl seats due to the kids. Had Dennis Dillon Dodge add all the suspension and mods I wanted. My thought was get the chassis I wanted, save money not buying a Laramie or higher trim and use that for mods. I ended up about the same price a Laramie would have costed, but already built (Phase 1).

Fastforward almost two years and I have added bed LED lights, upgraded the headlights and just recently put a factory fog light bumper on to add BD SAE fogs and their squadron Pros. I have added a ton of 2-300 dollar mods along the way. I still want a better radio and the seats are mega uncomfortable and not super adjustable. I have some back issues from my time flying the plane in my avatar and I’m about to go with the Scheel-man seats or nice Recaro’s that are cooled and heated. I hear everyone’s point, but by the time I’m done with mods I would be in the price of that Laramie. All of my desired mods aren’t “required”, but Annoyances I could have avoided by buying the nicer truck from the start.

I do believe one can save coin by buying a stripped truck and modify it to your needs, but it will take a while to get there. I’m keeping the truck as of now and when I’m done it will be a better truck. I enjoy modifying my vehicles so it was my reason for going the route I did. I say buy as much truck as your wallet or wife will let you justify.

One take away I take from this though is you can put aftermarket parts towards a lower level truck and end up with a nicer truck than some of the higher level trucks. Seats for example I believe are way nicer aftermarket. If you save $10,000 on a truck you can build up with aftermarket exactly the way you like over time.
Sweet jet btw! Do you still fly?
 

spacer

Observer
Distracted driver blew through a stop sign last week and totaled my car. So .. figured I'd get me a truck. This one spoke to me. No automation, but has BT, a/c, and cruise control. I'd have liked it even better with crank windows, but ya can't have it all.
 

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MR. ED

Observer
Spacer, enjoy those electric windows. As a cranker I look at autotrader weekly for a simple truck with electric windows. The one time I got pulled over recently I thought I may get shot as I was trying to gesture that I couldn't just roll the passenger window down. Much to the dismay of the increasingly annoyed police officer.
 

Ozarker

Well-known member
Sold my '99 XLT with 110,000 miles on it and thought I was done with trucks, that the Jeep Cherokee would be fine for my elder needs. Nope, bought another boat so that meant another truck.

Bought an XL F-150, I don't know, it might be loaded for an XL, steering wheel controls, remote mirrors, 4x4 & tow package, and it tells me stuff like tire pressure, XM, blah, blah, blah. From what was in my local market for late model used F-150's, it came down to 6,000 fewer miles on an XLT, get carpet and cloth power seats and a larger media screen for $24,xxx+ more.

My old XLT had power seats, they probably weren't moved a dozen times in over 10 years. My carpet had a coffee stain that took me a month to get cleaned and I didn't have all the media stuff. Cloth seats might be nicer than vinal, but that can be a toss-up, my dog likes the vinal. I like the "rubber" floor, it's insulated, quiet and very easy to clean out.

As to exterior trim, I don't really care, I like the white with black trim without decals and stickers. Pretty sure my truck was in service with the Texas Highway Dept. so I know it was serviced. It was very clean, no dents or scratches, so I'd bet it was driven by some supervisor to different jobs.

I do kinda wish my media screen was bigger, like the one I have in my Jeep Cherokee, but I can live with it.....
 

85_Ranger4x4

Well-known member
Sold my '99 XLT with 110,000 miles on it and thought I was done with trucks, that the Jeep Cherokee would be fine for my elder needs. Nope, bought another boat so that meant another truck.

Bought an XL F-150, I don't know, it might be loaded for an XL, steering wheel controls, remote mirrors, 4x4 & tow package, and it tells me stuff like tire pressure, XM, blah, blah, blah. From what was in my local market for late model used F-150's, it came down to 6,000 fewer miles on an XLT, get carpet and cloth power seats and a larger media screen for $24,xxx+ more.

My old XLT had power seats, they probably weren't moved a dozen times in over 10 years. My carpet had a coffee stain that took me a month to get cleaned and I didn't have all the media stuff. Cloth seats might be nicer than vinal, but that can be a toss-up, my dog likes the vinal. I like the "rubber" floor, it's insulated, quiet and very easy to clean out.

As to exterior trim, I don't really care, I like the white with black trim without decals and stickers. Pretty sure my truck was in service with the Texas Highway Dept. so I know it was serviced. It was very clean, no dents or scratches, so I'd bet it was driven by some supervisor to different jobs.

I do kinda wish my media screen was bigger, like the one I have in my Jeep Cherokee, but I can live with it.....

I get so sick of the power seats in my F-150. Every time I get out I bump the lever thing to lay the back seat down. Bump it 3-4 times and it becomes very noticeable.

My '02 with manual seats... they stayed where I put them.
 

JaSAn

Grumpy Old Man
If I were younger or if I didn't think my current 2012 Ram would last as long as I need it, my next truck would be pre-1970.
I have enough experience building race cars, custom cars, classic cars, etc. to build a reliable truck that I can maintain.
Too much gimmicky technology on the new ones. They haven't been designed to be fixed.
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Had a 2015 F150 XLT 301previously and this time round went with a XLT 302a.
302a's come with heated seats & remote start which are nice to have in winter.
302a's also came with LED Daytime running lights. My commute is all highway so brighter lights are nice during the dark winter months.
The halogen in my 2015 were terrible. Felt like I was driving down the dark highway with just my park lights on.
Another benefit for me is it came with a 12" in dash screen and I optioned it with the 360 camera's. They've been awesome when hooking up my travel trailer.
All that being said, it depends on what you intend on using it for. If I wasn't using this truck as a daily commuter and it was just going to be for towing duties, I'd be fine with a base model 1 ton.
 

85_Ranger4x4

Well-known member
The trick to buying an older used truck is to avoid the glamour options. They are often broken or in disrepair, which is why the truck is being sold. Nobody kept them up. Comparing two trucks, one kitted out but half inoperative, vs another base model (fleets are a good source) and there is simply less wrong with them.

Now, I was driving a 99 Forester, and I do admit the heated seats, windshield (under the wipers, they melted quick and worked fast) etc etc was nice to have, but compared to a barely optioned STX F150, it's much less work to keep the truck running. Unlike the 90 Cherokee which was beginning to have major wiring issues - door locks quit working, fixed it, that work around quit. Windows got slower, some other options quit, it became a collection of non working luxury. If it's your forever vehicle - when you get older there will be one you keep forever because your lifespan is likely shorter - then not fussing with broken luxury systems that require a $100 an hour mechanic to keep in operation is a good thing.

And those of us who grew up without all the optional features really don't miss what we never had, or, having them, found they weren't all that anyway. I've got two digital lines of info on the speedometer to give me messages vs the wife's car blaring her phone connection thru the stereo when a child calls up - among other things I don't need while driving . . . "ARE YOU THERE YET?" . . .

Heated seats, I use them year round. After dragging around semi truck parts all day it feels awesome on my back.

To go one step farther i wish the seat itself could be toggled off so then just the back is heated. When it's 100* and my back is sore having the seat bottom heated doesn't do much for me.
 

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