Gitout.com - Ultimate Expedition Build - 2003 Mitsubishi Montero Limited

[IncorpoRatedX]

I'm not stuck with anything. I've built 8 rigs for off road use. I chose this truck because it fits my use. When it doesn't it will be sold. Cost is no object, function and performance is what matters to me.

I'm surprised how many Mitsu guys downplay the 3rd Gen. I've owned every generation and would never go back.

Getting awfully defensive there homie, no one cares about your budget... I only joked that you were stuck with it until it's scrap because you'd have to buy something 'better' and you obviously have your head so far up the tail pipe of a gen 3 that you wouldn't see 'better' if it winched you off a rock.

It's cool dude, you obviously have something you need to prove, go prove it! The rest of us will keep wheeling our out-dated, inferior garbage while you're out there proving whatever it is you need to prove about gen 3's... unfortunately your attitude is making more people want to see a third gen on it's roof, and that's not helpful to anyone.

 

[The Viper]

Getting awfully defensive there homie, no one cares about your budget... I only joked that you were stuck with it until it's scrap because you'd have to buy something 'better' and you obviously have your head so far up the tail pipe of a gen 3 that you wouldn't see 'better' if it winched you off a rock.

It's cool dude, you obviously have something you need to prove, go prove it! The rest of us will keep wheeling our out-dated, inferior garbage while you're out there proving whatever it is you need to prove about gen 3's... unfortunately your attitude is making more people want to see a third gen on it's roof, and that's not helpful to anyone.

I dont mean to intrude or butt into things....but i think he was just stating facts (ie hes built 8 rigs, cost is no object, etc)...i can see how his comments could be taken as ..."head up your...", but in my opinion, Peter is one of the nicest guys around and always willing to help...I think you might of taken his comments in a direction that he certainly didnt intend. Again i dont mean to "troll", but Peter really is a "class act" guy

and yes your rig is outdated and garbage, haha (jk, please dont yell at me )

EDIT: oh yeah, Peter...if money is no object, you can go ahead and ship that monty straight to me in NY when your done playing with it...Ive always wanted 2 gen 3 20th anniversary editions

 

[montypower]

This is what is wrong with the internet.

My point is simple, I chose this truck not based on it being cheap (the reason many buy Monteros). It isn't without flaws however, based on my use it is the best fit for now. People say Gen3 is weak, it's not and I'd say it's equally capable to same spec Gen2 with improved performance in nearly every area (handling, comfort, space, mpg).

 

[Toasty]

Alright boys, I guess i'll be the dad here. This isn't the Jeep forum, nobody needs to take any of this too seriously as we're all on the same team here. Lets keep it informative and good to read for those on this forum who are looking into Mitsu 4x4's for the first time.

JordanM/S - I deleted my last comment as I shouldn't repay negativity with negativity. I do suggest you delete this guy's comments and block him if you can. He's a fool that will never change, I have seen him post before and it's always him trying to start something.

The Viper- I dont mean to intrude or butt into things....but i think he was just stating facts (ie hes built 8 rigs, cost is no object, etc)...i can see how his comments could be taken as ..."head up your...", but in my opinion, Peter is one of the nicest guys around and always willing to help...I think you might of taken his comments in a direction that he certainly didnt intend. Again i dont mean to "troll", but Peter really is a "class act" guy

and yes your rig is outdated and garbage, haha (jk, please dont yell at me )

JordanM/S, The Viper and other forum users, I've wheeled with IncorporatedX and Montypower and both of these guys bring a wealth of knowledge to this forum and i'd wheel with either of them any time they're good dudes I'm sure they'd get along just fine on the trails as well, having said that maybe we let them duke it out in a bout of internet ninjitsu
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Montypower, OK you proved the Gen 3 platform out on the con, yes it's very capable and it climbed a few spots that the Gen 2's had trouble getting hung up on and you were definitely able to hang. We were impressed but you did take the ladies line on a few spots where PA_JERO in his Gen 2 owned the day and you only did half of this years Sierra Carnage so I don't know if we can even call Gen 2 vs Gen 3 a wash yet. That's right you had better not be hyping your truck up to sell it because now you are going to have to come wheel the next Sierra Challenge. Remember when we first met I said you need to sell me on a Gen 3, well there's a 120 Series in my fleet now... Looking forward to seeing you next Mitsu gathering homie. I plan to bring a Mitsu on the next Dusy Ershim run, 120 series = Meh, Toyota kool-aide is easy to drink but hard to stomach ha ha ha.
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IncorporatedX, I know you mean well but Jeep forum... I say you and I team up for the next Sierra Challenge and make a name for ourselves in the Mitsu world! :wings:
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Everyone else, I've built more Mitsu 4x4's with less money than anyone so eat 5HiT! BWAHAHAHAHA!

 

[montypower]

OK you proved the Gen 3 platform out on the con, yes it's very capable and it climbed a few spots that the Gen 2's had trouble getting hung up on and you were definitely able to hang. We were impressed but you did take the ladies line on a few spots where PA_JERO in his Gen 2 owned the day

True. But on 37" tires!

Build a Gen2 with the same lift, gears, tire size... then let's drive some trails. Apples to Apples.

Dusy will be awesome next year! Looking forward to it. But with lower gears...

 

[Eric M]

I agree with Montypower. Get a Gen 2 with the same setup and the NM will walk it thanks to the traction control.

 

[IncorpoRatedX]

That's the entire basis to your argument? Demodify a more capable rig to make it less capable because it lacks a specific piece of technology? I'm just gonna stop posting in this thread and leave you to your work. It's not my business.

 

[Toasty]

True. But on 37" tires!

Build a Gen2 with the same lift, gears, tire size... then let's drive some trails. Apples to Apples.

Dusy will be awesome next year! Looking forward to it. But with lower gears...

Hey PA_JERO was on 35's we're talking 1" of tire difference between you two, he does have better gearing so... Anyway i'll give you apples to bananas on the Dusy with my Gen 1 Mighty Max, I'm not as good of a driver as you Pete so we'll see what I can do. We should do a trail game like HORSE maybe we'll call it MONTY trying to copy a line on an obstacle, I think that would be a lot of fun to do. We'll keep it cheeky. Gotta come up with some more trail pranks to play on Lloyd, I got him with zip ties on the driveshaft and i'm sure you saw we shrink wrapped his truck at his hotel.

 

[TheMole]

Please get it on video if you play HORSE haha. :drool:

 

[PA_JERO]

Dang, this thread got nuts.

The great thing about mitsu owners that I've always liked is we all have a different outlook on 4x4's. We don't drive jeeps and think there is nothing else. And regardless of what mitsu you drive we are all on the same level as the rest which makes us a unique group. I also like the fact that no matter what mitsu owner I've ever wheeled with, everybody is willing to pull there weight and lend a hand on the trail. This to me is what separates us to the common jeep owner (some , not all) Or group. They are very much every man for them selves to a certain point. There is alot of pride in the rig anyone of us builds no matter the model. And we all have our own opinions on them, that we are very much entitled too.

Pete, your a cool dude, and an excellent driver in your rig. I think your a blast to wheel with. Very well built truck that did the rubicon just as every other Gen montero did. At some point the Gen 2 Gen 3 thing became a competition and that's not how it's suppose to be. The Gen 3 is a perfect application for what you want in a 4x4. Gen 2 is a perfect application for what I want. And it goes on depending the person. I personally can't stand rebuilding ifs. I could never rebuild ifs, irs, every couple years. When people say weak, maybe it's more of a "that could create problems later that I don't want to deal with". The word weak is probably not the true word for it. No montero is weak.

Anyway, this was alot to type from my phone, but before I go I do have to haze a little. If we do comparisons on trucks we need to establish a couple things. Gen 3 does well, but how well would it really do without continuously building a road and using the stupid ***** maxtrax ramps or what ever there called?

 

[montypower]

Anyway, this was alot to type from my phone, but before I go I do have to haze a little. If we do comparisons on trucks we need to establish a couple things. Gen 3 does well, but how well would it really do without continuously building a road and using the stupid ***** maxtrax ramps or what ever there called?

Really? How many times did I use my maxtraxx?? I think maybe once or twice. How many times did everyone else use them?? I can't even count. They are ground down from all the tire spinning. How many times did I winch myself? Zero. How many times did I winch others? At least 3.

Much of it comes down to driver ability and knowing the limits. I like pushing limits but not willing to damage the truck (otherwise, it will keep me from taking future adventures). My truck is not a rock crawler, but it can crawl on rocks. It is for long range type travel and exploration.

 

[PA_JERO]

Really? How many times did I use my maxtraxx?? I think maybe once or twice. How many times did everyone else use them?? I can't even count. They are ground down from all the tire spinning. How many times did I winch myself? Zero. How many times did I winch others? At least 3.

Hahaha. It's true. Alot of times it was to help other people. I just have to give you crap because that's just who I am.

 

[bikerjosh]

Hey wasn't this a build thread? If folks want to start a thread regarding what is better, Heavy Metal or Punk , errrr Gen 1 vs 2-2.5 vs 3 someone should start one. This is beginning to sound like a lot of other forums. Yeah, I own a 2.5 it works for me, but I enjoy reading what Pete's Gen 3 can do and his build. The "pissing contest" not so much.

Rant, off.:friday:


BTW- Punk was always better.

 

[PA_JERO]

BTW- Punk was always better.

Hey whoa,

I'll give you early punk, like 80's and way early 90's. It's basically heavy metal of the future. The kids just got angrier. We do not want to get into a debate about music. I am probably one of the most opinionated people when it comes to music.

With that being said, True METAL is where it's at.


Sorry pete, this was an extreme thread jack.

 

[montero98ls]

I think I understand what he was trying to say..people make out a gen 3 to be like a jeep compass and the gen 2 is more of a wrangler so to speak, as in they don't compare, but in reality they're closer than you may think. Being that it is newer I'm sure it has certain improvements such as better engine and transmission, steering, ride, etc etc...but yes that whole superior post was kind of offending.. I'm still not a fan of unibody and IRS, nor do I need it to be modernized and comfy, but if I were racking up off road miles like him I'd sure like to give my back a break... I still think it's Apple's to oranges...you always have to compromise, one can't be the best at both. I'd say the gen 2 is a bit more rugged and tougher but lacks on road compared to a gen 3. Where as the gen 3 is pretty damn near close to the gen 2 off road, but not the same. On road gen 3 is way better...Anyways it much to write on phone..