Here's the new H3T website...
http://www.hummer.com/h3t/microsite/h3t.jsp? make=hummer&model=homepage&deepLink=overview
http://www.hummer.com/h3t/microsite/h3t.jsp? make=hummer&model=homepage&deepLink=overview
Hummer H3T pickup announced
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maximumrob
Adventurer
As a guy who drives a lifted Wrangler, I just can't see wheeling something that long with only 33" tires. To really get a decent break-over angle, one would have to lift it 8-10" and go to at least 38" tires. Then it's tippy!
Yeah, it looks cool, though. It wouldn't be a bad daily driver if you didn't have to squeeze in to parking garages, parking spots, or any other turning.
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Yeah, it looks cool, though. It wouldn't be a bad daily driver if you didn't have to squeeze in to parking garages, parking spots, or any other turning.
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H3T - H8TRS already
Holy smokes are there some anti-Hummers out there. This is wrong with it and that is wrong with it and I'd buy this or that truck.
How about the fact that it's a very functional vehicle. One that will do more stock than the average Joe will ever need it to do.
How about the fact that at least it has f/r lockers - yes I know there are others on the market with them too but a first from GM.
I've always liked this site for the information and honesty but for crying out loud - quit bashing something NOBODY here has driven yet.
I got an 03 Taco DC V6 based on my own research and by input from folks here. I hope some poor sap who's dream rig is a H3T doesn't read some of the comments here.
Why do some of you have such a problem with it? If you're not spending the $$$ on it then don't sweat it. Fear of the unknown on the H3T's abilities?? Envy?? I don't know I'm only guessing
You want a Toy, a Power Wagon, Jeep or whatever buy it and modify it - enjoy it it's yours.
Maybe it's been a long day. Maybe I'm just grumpy - I've been told so.
Let's just wait and see what the H3T is like and how it performs before we complain about some more.
Holy smokes are there some anti-Hummers out there. This is wrong with it and that is wrong with it and I'd buy this or that truck.
How about the fact that it's a very functional vehicle. One that will do more stock than the average Joe will ever need it to do.
How about the fact that at least it has f/r lockers - yes I know there are others on the market with them too but a first from GM.
I've always liked this site for the information and honesty but for crying out loud - quit bashing something NOBODY here has driven yet.
I got an 03 Taco DC V6 based on my own research and by input from folks here. I hope some poor sap who's dream rig is a H3T doesn't read some of the comments here.
Why do some of you have such a problem with it? If you're not spending the $$$ on it then don't sweat it. Fear of the unknown on the H3T's abilities?? Envy?? I don't know I'm only guessing
You want a Toy, a Power Wagon, Jeep or whatever buy it and modify it - enjoy it it's yours.
Maybe it's been a long day. Maybe I'm just grumpy - I've been told so.
Let's just wait and see what the H3T is like and how it performs before we complain about some more.
maximumrob
Adventurer
3 DOGS said:
There are guys here with Hummers, they like 'em, and we like to hear that they wheel 'em. But if you go to a Hummer forum, you'll mostly see talk about chrome wheels, subwoofers, and street tires. Remember...this is a forum full of people who use their trucks off the road.
Hummers elicit a ton of emotion regardless of how one feels about 'em. There will always be praise and/or bashing of something like that. Those that are too sensitive to deal with the feedback picked the wrong vehicle.
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Scott Brady
Founder
Hey all,
Everyone on the forum knows that brand bashing is not tolerated on ExPo, but besides that, a blanket statement of "Hummers Suck" just makes you sound ignorant. While it is certainly possible that a Hummer may not be your favorite vehicle, there is no question that they are focusing on trail performance and making an effort to offer US designed and built trail offerings. That is certainly worth noting and encouraging.
So, if three lockers, 33" tires, 4:1 transfer case, etc. was offered on a Toyota, everyone would be excited. Why not wrap your mind around the fact that the more successful Hummer is with these offerings, the more pressure it puts on other brands to improve factory trail performance.
I have driven H1-H3's, and an H3 Alpha with the adventure package will spank any stock vehicle available in the US but a Rubicon Jeep on the trail.
If you do not like a particular vehicle, be specific, not general, as it helps no one to say "this is junk". Say, the visibility is poor, or the front axle is a 7.5" R&P and the cvs are prone to breaking, etc.
Everyone on the forum knows that brand bashing is not tolerated on ExPo, but besides that, a blanket statement of "Hummers Suck" just makes you sound ignorant. While it is certainly possible that a Hummer may not be your favorite vehicle, there is no question that they are focusing on trail performance and making an effort to offer US designed and built trail offerings. That is certainly worth noting and encouraging.
So, if three lockers, 33" tires, 4:1 transfer case, etc. was offered on a Toyota, everyone would be excited. Why not wrap your mind around the fact that the more successful Hummer is with these offerings, the more pressure it puts on other brands to improve factory trail performance.
I have driven H1-H3's, and an H3 Alpha with the adventure package will spank any stock vehicle available in the US but a Rubicon Jeep on the trail.
If you do not like a particular vehicle, be specific, not general, as it helps no one to say "this is junk". Say, the visibility is poor, or the front axle is a 7.5" R&P and the cvs are prone to breaking, etc.
Ron B
Explorer
It's GM's own fault that the hummer is percieved as a bling mobile. Look at the accessories they sell and who they market to. When GM took over the marketing for AM General in '99, the chrome door handles/accessories started appearing. The H3 recently came out in a "tactical" edition (I guess "tactical" means blacked out rims/door handles, and black side-steps).
They do hold their own off road in their stock configuration, and with a little tweaking can do some crazy stuff. However most who start wheeling them harder end up selling them and getting something more trail friendly/less $$ with lots of available aftermarket accessories.
ron b
They do hold their own off road in their stock configuration, and with a little tweaking can do some crazy stuff. However most who start wheeling them harder end up selling them and getting something more trail friendly/less $$ with lots of available aftermarket accessories.
ron b
Fireman78
Expedition Leader
Rear AND front locker options!! I'm impressed. :26_7_2:
Perhaps we can get this as an option too.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wdf_oReFj8U
(I'm saving for this option for my Power Wagon.)
Perhaps we can get this as an option too.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wdf_oReFj8U
(I'm saving for this option for my Power Wagon.)
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4Rescue
Expedition Leader
I'd agree with that to some degree...expeditionswest said:
(So does this mean you'll be buying a new H3 then???)expeditionswest said:
Don't agree with that one... A double cab Taco with the E-locker is higher up on that list than the hummer... Lower T-case gears are the only thing the Toy doesn't have, and it's got more ground clearance and a far better track record. Power wagon should be up there ahead of the Hummer as well. And unless you're talking only BRAND NEW vehicles, a Bone stock 80 series, as well as the new 200 series Cruisers(although I'm scarrd of all the gadgets for now) are better wheelers as well. Disco's are better wheelers... basicly, it's sure neat that it got optioned with a locker and lower T-case G's, but there are clearly better rigs to be bought that are US legal models.
The thing that's really a disadvantage is the size of this new thing. It's been talked about before, but really, unless they make the regular H3 available with this package, they'll never really have lived up to their potential...
And as far as bashing goes... I don't consider it bashing to point out that GM's track record as far a reliability is pretty shabby (since about 1979). That's a fact. If you're gonna buy something that costs this much and that you will be taking loved ones out into the woods with, it's a fact that you should be aware of...
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Scott Brady
Founder
I was only talking current vehicles (2008). An H3 has more ground clearance, an additional locker, larger tires, lower gearing and more torque than a new Tacoma. The adventure package is an upgrade, just like the TRD package is.
Just a fact...
I would still buy the Tacoma over the H3 because of superior reliability.
My point is that there are numerous categories for evaluating, testing and selecting vehicles. One factor may be of more importance to one person than another.
For me, I favor reliability and capability, which leaves me with Toyotas and Jeep Wranglers most of the time (yes, my Jeep Wranglers have all been flawless, for hundreds of thousands of miles total). I would not buy an H3, as they do not have a documented and proven reliability record. Time will tell...
Just a fact...
I would still buy the Tacoma over the H3 because of superior reliability.
My point is that there are numerous categories for evaluating, testing and selecting vehicles. One factor may be of more importance to one person than another.
For me, I favor reliability and capability, which leaves me with Toyotas and Jeep Wranglers most of the time (yes, my Jeep Wranglers have all been flawless, for hundreds of thousands of miles total). I would not buy an H3, as they do not have a documented and proven reliability record. Time will tell...
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