INEOS Grenadier
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I wonder which BMW engine it is. If it's the same 6 cylinders family as we have in our 340, that engine is phenomenal.
Highlander
The Strong, Silent Type
I am absolutely in love with this thing.
I am working on to get a Ford Transit AWD or a Sprinter, but somethings is telling me in my mind to wait and see the Grenadier first.
A new Grenadier may not even be that expansive than a new, but empty, 4x4 Sprinter.
I'm interested in all three also - the Grenadier won't have standing up space potential will it?
85_Ranger4x4
Well-known member
Looking at the guy leaning on the mirror in post 226 I don't see how unless the floor drops out of it or something.
Highlander
The Strong, Silent Type
No. It will be too low for that. Though overall size and interior space will probably be bigger than the Wrangler and the Land Cruiser.
This seems too be such a good expedition vehicle that I might be ok with the tradeoffs.
At this moment in my life, given my outdoor hobbies such as upland hunting, fishing and exploring the rural America a van makes most sense, but on the other hand this is a vehicle I have been dreaming since I saw the first Camel Trophy Defenders passing through the town I grew up in.
Practically speaking, a Ford Crew Cab AWD short wheelbase and mid-roof is the most the best candidate for me.
Paddler Ed
Adventurer
It looks like Greg Kable from Autocar in the UK has got behind the wheel of one on the test track:
www.autocar.co.uk
Ineos Grenadier review | Autocar
Is this spiritual successor to the original Defender a vanity project or the real deal?
Paddler Ed
Adventurer
And a bit more from Autocar on the Ineos:
www.autocar.co.uk
(And I think Matt Prior is right, the real competition at the working end will be the double cabs; on the fancy street, it'll be something completely out of their radar and competitor matrix - much like how a Range Rover competitor is a Mercedes S-Class in many ways)
The Ineos Grenadier has to beat pick-ups, not Land Rover Defender | Autocar
Popularity of trucks, which are built to tight margins, could make or break new off-roader for customers
(And I think Matt Prior is right, the real competition at the working end will be the double cabs; on the fancy street, it'll be something completely out of their radar and competitor matrix - much like how a Range Rover competitor is a Mercedes S-Class in many ways)
ChasingOurTrunks
Well-known member
And a bit more from Autocar on the Ineos:
The Ineos Grenadier has to beat pick-ups, not Land Rover Defender | Autocar
Popularity of trucks, which are built to tight margins, could make or break new off-roader for customers
(And I think Matt Prior is right, the real competition at the working end will be the double cabs; on the fancy street, it'll be something completely out of their radar and competitor matrix - much like how a Range Rover competitor is a Mercedes S-Class in many ways)
It's a fair point that Ineos is playing in the Truck's market, but I think the error of the assumption by Mr. Prior is that Ineos has to "beat" pickup trucks. It doesn't; it only has to be a better alternative to a pickup truck for about 25,000 - 30,000 people for this thing to hit it's production numbers and turn a profit. I can't speak for everyone but as much as I love my little truck, the Ineos is already looking like a much better alternative for my needs. Only 24,999-29,999 more people to go and they are golden!
The Autocar review is incredibly promising with regards to this platform; it seems to confirm a lot of what people have been hopefully speculating. I'm intrigued by the comments on the interior - looks like we'll find out next month!
Highlander
The Strong, Silent Type
Tomorrow is when they reveal the interior design and space layout.
It might be livestreamed as well.
It might be livestreamed as well.
Bill Ruttan
Member
Reveal should occur at 4:01 pm PDT/7:01 pm EDT today (July 6) here in the U.S.
Any idea where to find a possible livestream?
Any idea where to find a possible livestream?
Highlander
The Strong, Silent Type
The interior looks quite good, very simple, utilitarian with straightforward lines and curves.
roving1
Well-known member
Wow , looks great. Big chunky switches you can see and use while driving, especially off-road. It's sad that this is such a revolutionary concept in vehicles these days. But the whole industro-chunk meets modern interior is a really nice direction to go in. Better than I was hoping for.