INEOS Grenadier

[paachi]

I have zero doubt that LRA will make an aux tank.

Yeah totally. In fact I think in the South African tour videos they shared that they have been working with after market players like ARB, AluCab, Frontrunner etc. So a LRA or Brown Davis tank will definitely be in the works.

There is some nice space between the frame rails and the rear end for an aux fuel or water tank.

 

[ChasingOurTrunks]

I have zero doubt that LRA will make an aux tank.

Yeah totally. In fact I think in the South African tour videos they shared that they have been working with after market players like ARB, AluCab, Frontrunner etc. So a LRA or Brown Davis tank will definitely be in the works.

There is some nice space between the frame rails and the rear end for an aux fuel or water tank.

I was thinking the same thing, Paachi and Beowulf. And while it might not be available at launch, I'm really curious how "integrated" the aftermarket partnerships will be. For example, will I be able to add an ARB bar and a frontrunner rack in the configurator so that my Grenadier shows up at my house with all those bits already installed and included in the purchase price? And if yes, how does that compare with the prices of me dropping the Gren off at my local 4x4 shop and having them do it? (some Jeep dealers seem to have this model where you can add AEV accessories like lifts and such on a new vehicle purchase, but they are way more expensive than having an aftermarket shop do the same job with the same parts).

It's probably moot for me as I like installing stuff myself, but if the value was there, I'd be happy to pay a bit more to have the Ineos show up turn-key with the accessories I want.

(Especially if delivery is in the winter...I've installed one bull bar in -30 Celsius, and I don't care to do another one!)

 

[charlieaarons]

It sounds like it’s still coming to US. Maybe hopefully in diesel form. Won’t be hard for someone in Canada to make a delete tune since they already make them for the same BMW motor for X5s and 3/5 series.
Since you’re talking about tires, anyone know if 16s will fit over brakes? So all steel 235/85s (32”) or 8.25s (33.9”) can be used? There’s a source for new indoor stored 8.25R16 XZLs (Vrakking).
OK, it has the newer B57 version, not the N57, but you get the idea.

 

[charlieaarons]

With regards to (diesel) Ineos Grenadier, I (think) I put in reservation for $450. Their computer system is very unstable.
I promptly (I hope) canceled it when I tried to configure the vehicle and found diesel wasn’t a choice for USA.

 

[ABBB]

I have zero doubt that LRA will make an aux tank.

For the naifs among us, what is LRA?

 

[paachi]

Pretty sure diesel won’t be coming to North American market. This was confirmed by the Managing Director for INEOS NA. Mainly because BMW pulled that engine due to diesel gate and it will have to go through a very expensive recertification process to be legal in America.

I experienced that slight glitch where it showed diesel as an option when I was booking. The moment you select your country as US it defaults to gasoline only.

LRA = Long Ranger Automotive. One of the premier long range tank manufacturers. They have tanks for many vehicles and are Aussie made. Brown Davis is another Aussie maker of aux tanks. Arguably as good as LRA if a bit less known

 

[ABBB]

Any idea what the MPG will be in the North American models? How much larger the LRA tanks might be (even though there aren’t any aftermarket products yet bc there still isn’t a product yet )?

 

[paachi]

Any idea what the MPG will be in the North American models? How much larger the LRA tanks might be (even though there aren’t any aftermarket products yet bc there still isn’t a product yet )?

Aah now that’s firmly in speculative territory. Here is my hypothesis:

The South African tour video interview quoted Ineos team saying 800Ks on a tank of gas. That 497 mi on 23.78 US gal. I am assuming they are talking about the diesels because that’s gonna be the dominant version sold in those markets.

That translates to ~21 mpg US. I am guessing those numbers are long distance highway numbers and not city numbers.

Modern diesels are quite efficient. About 25-30% more frugal than petrol counterparts. So the petrol should be about 16-17 mpg or a range of about 380-400 miles from a 23.78 US gallon tank.

 

[ABBB]

Aah now that’s firmly in speculative territory. Here is my hypothesis:

The South African tour video interview quoted Ineos team saying 800Ks on a tank of gas. That 497 mi on 23.78 US gal. I am assuming they are talking about the diesels because that’s gonna be the dominant version sold in those markets.

That translates to ~21 mpg US. I am guessing those numbers are long distance highway numbers and not city numbers.

Modern diesels are quite efficient. About 25-30% more frugal than petrol counterparts. So the petrol should be about 16-17 mpg or a range of about 380-400 miles from a 23.78 US gallon tank.

Well speculative or not, I like your answer

I’m in a 2.8L diesel Colorado ZR2 currently and getting about 20-22mpg when I treat my fuel and the truck is unloaded. I’d be happy with 16-20 in a gasser, especially considering the size of the cargo area in the rear. My mpg drops to 6-10 when I’m needing a lot of throttle to get through mud/snow/etc. I’ll miss having a diesel - some part of me hopes they reverse course and offer them stateside - but I’ll take what I can get.

I believe someone in this forum or on the dedicated Grenadier forum made mention of their clunky website. I’ve been aggravated by it as I try to play with the build features and accessories and am a bit stunned it performs as awfully as it does. In this age of website/social media as first contact with customers, wouldn’t you want to be sure your website was as smooth as can be? I don’t want to believe a clunky website is indicative of anything else related to the company, but they want me to pay them a deposit and I can barely get pages to load? Seems like a silly thing for such an ambitious company to be allowing.

 

[Beowulf]

Got the opportunity to see the Grenadier in person in Denver today. I was blown away by the beefiness of the undercarriage. I was prepared for there to be something that I didn’t like. Something that would make me uneasy about a future purchase. That was not the case. In fact it was quite the opposite. Everything I saw made me you want to buy this even more

 

[Beowulf]

Pics

 

[Grassland]

So at the price point this thing is going to be at, what's the appeal compared to a gas F250 crew cab or Ram equivalent for less money?
It's slightly smaller? Or because it's an SUV?

 

[Beowulf]

For me, both

 

[ABBB]

Thanks for sharing pics and insights, [mention]Beowulf [/mention]

What was your sense of ground clearance? I’ve gone back and forth playing with the build tool since putting my reservation in (I know we have plenty of time), can’t tell if I’d like to slider steps, imagining I will if I put 35s on, though from photos they look to hang low and protrude in an awkward way. Tough to tell from just photos. Highly doubt they’ll be any events here in Medford, OR anytime soon

 

[ChasingOurTrunks]

So at the price point this thing is going to be at, what's the appeal compared to a gas F250 crew cab or Ram equivalent for less money?
It's slightly smaller? Or because it's an SUV?

For me, both

Yup, both for me too. Even if they released, say, a Tahoe on a 2500 frame, it wouldn't have the mid-size physical dimensions of the Grenadier (although I admit it's on the beefier side of mid-sized). The combination of capability, form factor (wagon), and physical size make it a unique proposition in the automotive world these days that appeals to me a great deal.