Leaf Springs in rear of TJ

ox4mag

Explorer
Has anyone out there swapped out their coil springs in the rear of a TJ in exchange for leaf springs? Just curious if the swap proved to be a good one.
 

Scott Brady

Founder
I read of that being done a few years ago in one of the Primedia pubs. Dont recall which one.

I can see the logic of the swap, especially after 3" of (non-long arm) lift, having owned a TJ.
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
Brad Kilby did that years ago to his 97 TJ. I'll try and find some pics. That TJ is still rollin around, just saw it in Moab last year.
 

kjp98TJ

Observer
it was/is faily prevelant in the offroading world. before the "ease" of attaining and installing a rear triangulated 4 link suspension. i'm not using ease lightly, as only meaning getting the parts to build the 4 link is fairly easy. truss, tabs, ends and links, etc. of course installing and moving everything, correctly, to get it installed is a whole other issue. not to mention if you, or you don't know someone, that can weld.

in short, IMO, i don't think it's worth the effort, time and materials to leaf the rear when you can put that effort into a 4 link.
 

PhulesAU

Explorer
It's been done more as a "look what I can do" on crawler rigs, than as a useful mod for an all around rig.
 

BigAl

Expedition Leader
I've seen 2. One was on Xj springs with about a 6" stretch to the stock wheelbase. It was a comp rig and did very well. Some TJs get kind of a slinky effect going, making the body lean way over. I think the leaves would help with that but there are probably better ways. By the time you build a tract bar, weld on perches, and mount the springs hangers, you're probably have close to the time spent building a 4 link. edit: minus the math
 

ox4mag

Explorer
Very interesting input fellas, thanks for the response. I'm curious how a SWB and LWB (i.e. TJ vs. LJ) compare with the use of leaf springs vs. coils.

One issue that I currently have which may/may not be corrected with a 4 link, or leaf springs for that matter, is the amount of weight currently on my rear wheels. With the bumper rack system I have, as well as a roof rack, there's a tremendous amount of load on the rear axle thus causing my coil springs to undoubtedly be under extreme stress. Anyone have any suggestions on balancing the load between the front and rear suspension other than removing the bumper rack system from my current setup? I'm looking for functional suspension mods in this instance unless any of you has a better suggestion. Thanks!
 

dennisuello

Adventurer
JPFreek1 said:
Very interesting input fellas, thanks for the response. I'm curious how a SWB and LWB (i.e. TJ vs. LJ) compare with the use of leaf springs vs. coils.

One issue that I currently have which may/may not be corrected with a 4 link, or leaf springs for that matter, is the amount of weight currently on my rear wheels. With the bumper rack system I have, as well as a roof rack, there's a tremendous amount of load on the rear axle thus causing my coil springs to undoubtedly be under extreme stress. Anyone have any suggestions on balancing the load between the front and rear suspension other than removing the bumper rack system from my current setup? I'm looking for functional suspension mods in this instance unless any of you has a better suggestion. Thanks!

To support extra weight the leaf springs would have to be stiffer, and stiff leaf springs are way worse than stiff coil springs, more friction, etc. Use airbags to control additional weight and do a triangulated 4 link, as the cost to properly set up leaf springs and a traction bar will be near the cost of 4 link.
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
I say screw the trac bar if you go leaf in the back, not needed. I think the swap is pretty straight forward using some YJ parts & springs. If you're really thinking about doing it, I can hook you up with Brad so he can discuss it with you, his likes & dislikes.
 

SeaRubi

Explorer
thought about trying some stock LJ rubicon springs? mine seem pretty stiff, even loaded up. after that, what about just running some OME's and an ACOS kit to adjust as they sag :coffeedrink:
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
ujointclothing said:
I say screw the trac bar if you go leaf in the back, not needed. I think the swap is pretty straight forward using some YJ parts & springs. If you're really thinking about doing it, I can hook you up with Brad so he can discuss it with you, his likes & dislikes.
Agreed, that's what makes leafs simple right? Or are we refering to an anti wrap bar? In which case, if you've got a big motor they're nice...

Look into Petersen's review a few issues ago for a new JK suspension that uses Leafs( I thought it was in the Suspension shoot out issue, but it's not)? I know they're different platforms, but I'd bet you could get some ideas eh...

I agree though, if you've already got coils, just add air bags for weight control cause they ride smoother. Leaves are easier to lift with, and IMO are more durable/last longer. But again, coils are smoother. If you do go leafs, I personaly have great things to say about OME. A friend ran OME's on his old CJ and that thing flexed great, rode great, and was great... great...
 
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ox4mag

Explorer
Yeah, I saw the Ultimate Adventure rig at SEMA in October and it was sitting on leaf springs in the rear. That's what got me first thinking about this project. However, an air bag system (such as the one offered from Off Road Only) coupled with the coil springs could make for a quality ride and help with my sag issues.

So are y'all thinking I should go that route or consider the use of YJ leaves, etc? Sounds like a 4 link system with bags could be a very nice alternative here. Thanks again fellas!
 

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