Looking For a New 1/2Ton

wirenut

Adventurer
I don't see anybody snagging any "good deals" on trucks right now. The supply is tight and prices are high. This has pushed the price of used trucks high as well. I don't see it correcting any time soon. I have a friend who works at a Ford dealer. He's told me they're buying used trucks to put on their lot because they can't get enough new ones to fill up the lot. They are making money buying used trucks and reselling them at even higher prices.
If your current Ford is "tired" at 115,000 miles then I sure wouldn't buy another Ford. My two trucks, a 2005 Chevy dually and a 2009 2500 Suburban, are used every day for work: hauling and towing and then to pull the boat on weekends. They have 277,000 and 121,000 respectively and I plan to get several more years out of both of them.
 
"Tired" is a loose term, sorry for any confusion. This is longest I've ever owned a vehicle, and its nearly a decade old. There is some rust starting, which I plan to take care of, but there are no mechanical issues. Ive maintained this vehicle to the best of my capability and it still drives like a new truck... I'm just ready for something new.

Sure, theoretically I could dump some money into this truck and make it exactly what I want. However, I have a hard time justifying dumping hard earned money into a nearly 10 year old truck (purchased Dec of 2011) with 115k. Just wont see the return on my investment. If I buy a new truck, spend some money on improvements, I should be able to enjoy it for a decade.

I actually have no plans to sell or trade in my current truck. Its going keep on truckin until it dies someday. Itll just get demoted to the my personal hunting rig.

Cheers and thanks for all of the replays. Hoping to get out and test drive some stuff soon!
 

ITTOG

Well-known member
The half ton market depending on your trim of choice, is neck in neck

Knowing your payload concerns you are stuck with 3.5 EB or 5.0 with the highest payload packages. MAYBE a 2.7 PP in the right configuration.

I'm not interested in higher trims so the F150 has offered the best a la carte options at the best price on a platform that's well known and reasonably supported for aftermarket.

Both Toyota and Nissan make nice crew crab trucks but for way more money than I can buy an equivalent I equipped f150. This is locally in central Canada and I've found pricing varies insanely across North America.

Ram previously had great pricing for low trim trucks but that's changed sever years ago

I'd trust ford power train, it's the luxury options I don't have faith in (panoramic sunroof, cooled seats, heated rear window, etc)
That last sentence caught my eye. Not because I think you are wrong but because my thoughts are exactly the opposite. I have a 2018 F150 and all the issues, lots of them, have been with the drive train. In fact, the only reason I went with the F150 is because of what's in the cabin. If I could have gotten the F150 cabin with everything else being the 5.7L Tundra I would have been in truck heaven. I still miss my Tundra and borrow it from my son every now and then. I miss the instantaneous power and its reliability.
 

phsycle

Adventurer
That last sentence caught my eye. Not because I think you are wrong but because my thoughts are exactly the opposite. I have a 2018 F150 and all the issues, lots of them, have been with the drive train. In fact, the only reason I went with the F150 is because of what's in the cabin. If I could have gotten the F150 cabin with everything else being the 5.7L Tundra I would have been in truck heaven. I still miss my Tundra and borrow it from my son every now and then. I miss the instantaneous power and its reliability.

Sorry for your troubles, but the vast majority of folks do not have any issues with the drivetrain. If we’re doing anecdotal stories, I have 7 neighbors with 2015+ F150’s, all ecoboost, and zero report engine issues. One guy had an issue with the back massager on his platinum but that has been it.

As far as power, ecoboost kicks so much harder down low. If yours is an ecoboost, something definitely must be wrong with it.
 

deserteagle56

Adventurer
Sorry for your troubles, but the vast majority of folks do not have any issues with the drivetrain. If we’re doing anecdotal stories, I have 7 neighbors with 2015+ F150’s, all ecoboost, and zero report engine issues. One guy had an issue with the back massager on his platinum but that has been it.

As far as power, ecoboost kicks so much harder down low. If yours is an ecoboost, something definitely must be wrong with it.

^This. Mine will be 5 years old here shortly and has never been in the shop for any reason. Oil changes and tire rotations is all that I've had to do with it.
 

rruff

Explorer
Honestly, there is nothing about the Tundra that makes it stand out. It truly does nothing better than the competition. They are a good truck, but they don't do anything well enough to make the increased purchase price, higher insurance premiums, and higher fuel bill worth it to me.

They are the cheapest 1/2 ton to own. Low depreciation far outweighs the crappy mpg. High insurance? High price? :unsure: I paid $31k for mine. It's the lowest trim but well equipped.

I agree about the boring lack of "pizzaz"... but good lawd, the 5.7 has a shitton of power and torque (not everyone tunes their truck and takes it to the dragstrip ;)), and the reliability ratings far exceed any other truck, which is worth a lot more than the $$$ savings to many people.
 
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Deleted member 9101

Guest
They are the cheapest 1/2 ton to own. Low depreciation far outweighs the crappy mpg. High insurance? High price? :unsure: I paid $31k for mine. It's the lowest trim but well equipped.

The most basic crew cab Tundra was still thousands more expensive than my STX F150 when comparing out the door prices.

My last Tundra got 6-8 MPG less than my F150. I save about 1k a year on fuel. Since I plan on keeping my truck for about 10+ years, that makes the F150 cheaper by a long shot.

My insurance is about 1/3 cheaper with the F150 (5 star safety rating and its cheaper to repair)

While I like the 5.7 in the Tundra, the 2.7 bone stock will embarrass it, especailly when towing.

As for reliability, the only vehicle I've ever had to call a tow truck for was my Tundra.
 
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Deleted member 9101

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Mechanics overwhelmingly would pick the 5.0L though...



Yeah...totally great motor... If you like having to add oil every 1k miles, stalling at a stop light, or if you like listening to a can of rocks under your hood. All are problems that the 5.0 has TSBs for.

Go look at any F150 forum...there are no shortage of 5.0 owners who have problems. You know who doesn't inundate the internet with complaints.... 2.7 owners. ;-)

My dad and my brother both have 3.5s and theirs have been flawless. Florida Highway Patrol has a fleet of F150s with the 3.5... Never heard a single Trooper talk about any problems. In fact, they all have said that the F150s have been far more reliable than the Tahoes they replaced.
 

Regcabguy

Oil eater.
The most basic crew cab Tundra was still thousands more expensive than my STX F150 when comparing out the door prices.

My last Tundra got 6-8 MPG less than my F150. I save about 1k a year on fuel. Since I plan on keeping my truck for about 10+ years, that makes the F150 cheaper by a long shot.

My insurance is about 1/3 cheaper with the F150 (5 star safety rating and its cheaper to repair)

While I like the 5.7 in the Tundra, the 2.7 bone stock will embarrass it, especailly when towing.

As for reliability, the only vehicle I've ever had to call a tow truck for was my Tundra.
If you have the alumabody F-150 you'll get good protection from whiplash. I came up on one that had been backended by a Honda Accord at enough of a speed to set off every bag inside the Honda. She hit a brand new white F-150 Supercrew and the bed crumpled up like HD Reynolds wrap. I don't know why the Honda didn't go under the truck but maybe she hit the hitch and it elevated the Honda into the tailgate? The truck had paper plates even. He was on the phone with no apparent injuries. If I got a new 1/2 ton it would be the 2.7 Ecoboost.
The safety rating is great but the cost of repair must be sky high from what I observed.
 
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Deleted member 9101

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If you have the alumabody F-150 you'll get good protection from whiplash. I came up on one that had been backended by a Honda Accord at enough of a speed to set off every bag inside the Honda. She hit a brand new white F-150 Supercrew and the bed crumpled up like HD Reynolds wrap. I don't know why the Honda didn't go under the truck but maybe she hit the hitch and it elevated the Honda into the tailgate? The truck had paper plates even. He was on the phone with no apparent injuries. If I got a new 1/2 ton it would be the 2.7 Ecoboost.
The safety rating is great but the cost of repair must be sky high from what I observed.


Yeah, I've worked a couple of accidents over the years that has made me a 100% believer in the 2015+ F150s crash test rating.

Also, despite what people think, the F150 is not at all expensive to repair. Unlike every other truck on the market, the F150 was designed from the beginning to be affordable to work on.
 
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Deleted member 9101

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I do like the 2.7... great mpg, torque, and power.


Dude... I'm a "no replacement for displacement" kind of guy.... Until I started researching the 2.7. Unless I need a 3/4 ton truck one day, I'll probably never own another V8...lol.
 

phsycle

Adventurer
Mechanics overwhelmingly would pick the 5.0L though...


I didn’t say anything about the 5.0. I merely mentioned the ecoboost has been a good motor by all (my anecdotal) accounts. It’s the most prevalent motor, which is probably why the mechanics in the video see it going through their dealership more, as it outsells the 5.0 by 10:1 (or whatever the margin is).

Both good motors. I wouldn’t have any problems buying an ecoboost or 5.0 right now. But if I had to choose, I’d go ecoboost as I live at close to 5k ft and hauling or towing over steep roads at 8-9k ft is a dream in the ecoboost.
 

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