Looking For a New 1/2Ton

[nwoodworth1390]

Maybe you should consider four wheel drive...

Oh sorry, I knew I was missing something. Current truck is 4wd, the next one will be as well.

 

[nwoodworth1390]

I can tell you firsthand about Ram products. I had a 19 Ram 1500 Big Horn 4WD and it was one of the worst vehicles we have ever owned, reliability wise. It was however, the most comfortable vehicle to travel in and got decent mileage but the lack of reliability did it for us and I got rid of it quick. I was still getting alerts for it after I sold it, which were the "stop driving vehicle and take it to the dealer" warnings. Our 2015 1500 Tradesman never had an issue which was probably due to having less electronic gadgets. I guess it is luck of the draw.

That's about all I needed to here about FCA to be scared away...

 

[jadmt]

While I agree with this, they do hold their value pretty well. So, you do recoup some of the money that way.

Around here, I find they are comparably priced to Ram and Ford. In fact I would say Ram's are usually priced higher around here.

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something must be messed up with the internet...those are showing up like at $89K or above....

 

[Todd780]

something must be messed up with the internet...those are showing up like at $89K or above....

Yep. Crazy, isn't it?

 

[jadmt]

Yep. Crazy, isn't it?

geez I remember when all my relatives in International Falls Minnesota used to always buy their vehicles in Canada because they were cheaper..

 

[Todd780]

geez I remember when all my relatives in International Falls Minnesota used to always buy their vehicles in Canada because they were cheaper..

Well once you convert from CDN pesos to USD that $98,000 CDN truck is like $28,000 USD.....

 

[Martinjmpr]

geez I remember when all my relatives in International Falls Minnesota used to always buy their vehicles in Canada because they were cheaper..

There seems to be a cottage industry of US-based car dealers buying lightly used, low mileage (often rental) vehicles in Canada and then reselling them in the US, to take advantage of the fact that their US $ go a lot farther than Canadian ones. My F-150 is a Canadian spec XTR. XTR is a package that was only offered by Ford in Canada, so If you see an XTR badged truck, it was originally sold in Canada..

Funny thing is, after I learned that I started to notice that there are at least 3 - 4 XTRs in my suburban neighborhood.

EDITED TO ADD: I know the "conventional wisdom" is "never buy a former rental." Well, my F-150 is a former rental out of Manitoba (I think) and I haven't had a lick of trouble with it in 17 months and 18,000 miles. Still runs great. This is not my first rental either. I had a 1999 4runner that had previously been a rental (I bought it from a rental car company) and no issues on that one either.

 

[nwoodworth1390]

I think I need to test drive a 2.7l F150, and a Tundra.

 

[Chucho]

FWIW, I have 2017 Tundra and bought it new, I have put more than 100K on it and it has never been to the shop for anything but fluid changes.
as far as MPG I average 15-16 constantly. Best I ever got was 18 mpg on a road trip to Eastern Oregon.
When I was in the market for a new truck I have looked at all manufactures and the Tundra was the least expensive,
I got the TRD Off-Road SR5 Upgrade (38 gal. tank) and I paid less than 38K. I didn't need all the extra bells and whistles. I wanted a truck that would last and not leave me stranded in the middle of nowhere.
One complaint I do have is the bed bounce. I feel they should have kept the box frame from the past or at least stiffen it up a little. but it dose flex pretty good off road.
These are good trucks, I have been eyeing up the Chevy with the 6 cyl. DMaxx AT4. Those look sweet but don't know if I want to justify reliability and another truck payment.
I have a 2" level kit and run 275/70R18 WP AT3W now and it does pretty good for what I need it to do.

 

[phsycle]

I think I need to test drive a 2.7l F150, and a Tundra.

I had a 2.7 in my old 2015 F150. Great motor. Felt faster than my friend’s 5.7 Toyota. Just my butt dyno. One thing to note on the 2.7’s—the GVWR is 6,500lbs. This will result in a slightly lower payload. Mine was around 1,500, I think. If you want more, get the 3.5 or 5.0, which has 7,000 GVWR.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

I had a 2.7 in my old 2015 F150. Great motor. Felt faster than my friend’s 5.7 Toyota. Just my butt dyno. One thing to note on the 2.7’s—the GVWR is 6,500lbs. This will result in a slightly lower payload. Mine was around 1,500, I think. If you want more, get the 3.5 or 5.0, which has 7,000 GVWR.

The 2.7 is a nasty little motor once you learn how to unleash it on unsuspecting victims...haha.

They do offer a "payload package" with the 2.7 but other than special order, you'll probably never see one.

One nice thing about the F150 is the bare bones regular cab and the decked out super crew with the max tow package come with same transmission and brakes. Even though my truck is rated to tow 7.5k.... I have the same brakes and frame as the one rated for 13.5k.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

I think I need to test drive a 2.7l F150, and a Tundra.

Kick the salesman out and do a "full boost launch" if you want to have some fun ;-)

 

[plumber mike]

The Rams fall apart on us. Not the power train, but window regulators, worn through seat bolsters (One at 32k covered and one at 36,500 we were told sorry) check engine lights, loose suspension and steering stuff.
I might do another for a personal truck with a Cummins, but I’d rather just have the Cummins.
Ford underhood makes my brain hurt. Always good trucks and vans from them, but I’m a plumber....not a mechanic.
GMC and Chevy I got pretty comfortable with. They are.....predictable.
I snagged a lightly used 2018 GMC 1/2 ton All Terrain with the 6.2. I definitely like it for what it is. Anything newer is so ugly that I’d just go for the Tundra....which as already mentioned doesn’t really excite. I get that already in Mrs. Plumbers Titan XD Cummins;-). It has been good to us so far and seems of better interior quality then the others. The price was definitely right on it too.

Good luck. Have fun! Please drive them all and share your thoughts.

 

[Grassland]

The half ton market depending on your trim of choice, is neck in neck

Knowing your payload concerns you are stuck with 3.5 EB or 5.0 with the highest payload packages. MAYBE a 2.7 PP in the right configuration.

I'm not interested in higher trims so the F150 has offered the best a la carte options at the best price on a platform that's well known and reasonably supported for aftermarket.

Both Toyota and Nissan make nice crew crab trucks but for way more money than I can buy an equivalent I equipped f150. This is locally in central Canada and I've found pricing varies insanely across North America.

Ram previously had great pricing for low trim trucks but that's changed sever years ago

I'd trust ford power train, it's the luxury options I don't have faith in (panoramic sunroof, cooled seats, heated rear window, etc)

 

[phsycle]

I'm trying to figure out how your current truck is worn out at 115k miles.

I have three vehicles in the stable with 145k, 108k and 38k miles, oldest is 19 years and youngest is 5 and they all look and drive nearly like new with no leaks and no faults. Closest thing to a fault is my wife's car has dinged up paint because she works retail and people are major holes in parking lots.

I’m assuming when he said my vehicle is getting tired, I read, I’m getting tired of it.