Looking For a New 1/2Ton

Mfitz

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Dude... I'm a "no replacement for displacement" kind of guy.... Until I started researching the 2.7. Unless I need a 3/4 ton truck one day, I'll probably never own another V8...lol.
I have a 2015 F150 with the 2.7, 110,000 miles on the clock and at least half of that towing a 5000lb travel trailer across the country and up mtn passes in the west. To date the only fixes I have had were one oxygen sensor fail (but didn't strand me) and had the oil pan replaced, a known problem. Other than that it has been just routine maintenance, and I plan to keep it for at least another summer's towing. I can find no fault with the 2.7, does everything I need it to, and never felt like I needed more power, two more cylinders, or a different engine sound. If you want those things, no problem, it is your truck, but every time I hear somebody dismiss the 2.7 as the "grocery getter" I just laugh a bit. Some people are just stuck in the past. I would buy another 2.7 in a heartbeat- that is, if I didn't stay up at night dreaming of a new F350 with the 7.3 and a truck camper on the back....... right Jefe?
 
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Deleted member 9101

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Which one would you say it is?

From the drivers seat the 2.7 feels faster.... Mostly because it usually is. It has instant throttle response and pulls hard all the way to redline.

Also..while towing 8600 pounds, the 2.7 is faster in the 1/4 mile than the 3.5 and the 5.0.

 
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Deleted member 9101

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if looking at the 2.7, 3.5 and 5.0 do a blind test from the passenger seat. you might be surprised, not at which one is faster but which one is more satisfying.


I have a coworker that had a 1st gen Raptor with the 6.2 that had an intake, exhaust, and tune (yes, it sounds amazing). He gave me all kinds of crap about my "toaster oven" sized minivan motor. We lined up and raced on a back road at our office complex and my bone stock 2.7 absolutely destroyed him. He bought a 3.5HO Raptor six months later...haha.
 

rruff

Explorer
if looking at the 2.7, 3.5 and 5.0 do a blind test from the passenger seat. you might be surprised, not at which one is faster but which one is more satisfying.
2.7 ecoboost (6.15 standard. 4.83 tuned) 3.5 ecoboost (6.32 standard. 4.36 tuned) 5 liter v8 (6.94 standard 5.44 tuned)

 
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Deleted member 9101

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I have a 2015 F150 with the 2.7, 110,000 miles on the clock and at least half of that towing a 5000lb travel trailer across the country and up mtn passes in the west. To date the only fixes I have had were one oxygen sensor fail (but didn't strand me) and had the oil pan replaced, a known problem. Other than that it has been just routine maintenance, and I plan to keep it for at least another summer's towing. I can find no fault with the 2.7, does everything I need it to, and never felt like I needed more power, two more cylinders, or a different engine sound. If you want those things, no problem, it is your truck, but every time I hear somebody dismiss the 2.7 as the "grocery getter" I just laugh a bit. Some people are just stuck in the past. I would buy another 2.7 in a heartbeat- that is, if I didn't stay up at night dreaming of a new F350 with the 7.3 and a truck camper on the back....... right Jefe?


Other than new plugs every 20k (tuned, turbocharged vehicle's eat plugs) I've done nothing but oil changes and modifications on my 2.7. It's pushing probably 80-100 WHP over what the stock rating is at the crank and it hasn't flinched.
 

Todd780

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Other than new plugs every 20k (tuned, turbocharged vehicle's eat plugs) I've done nothing but oil changes and modifications on my 2.7. It's pushing probably 80-100 WHP over what the stock rating is at the crank and it hasn't flinched.
So do stock EcoBoosts eat plugs as well? Never heard this before? Never suffered any of the 5.0L issues mentioned above either though...
 
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So do stock EcoBoosts eat plugs as well? Never heard this before? Never suffered any of the 5.0L issues mentioned above either though...

Not that I know of. I do know when I changed them at 100k in a 3.5 work truck that it ran smoother, got slightly better MPG, and had more "pep."

Both EcoBoost motors are pretty sensitive to worn plugs, dirty air filters, and dirty MAP sensors. I clean my sensors and air filter every 5k when I change my oil and it seems to make the truck happy...lol.

I run a .028 plug gap and when I change them it's usually opened up to .032-.035. The truck definitely runs better on the smaller gap. Once the plug wears and the gap opens up, you can "blow out" the spark if you play with the happy peddle.

The one 5.0 truck that we have left at work runs great and hasn't given us any problems.
 

jadmt

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Which one would you say it is?
the 5.0L is most satisfying to me. I know everyone is looking at the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as being the most satisfying but if there is no stop watch involved the V8 has a certain satisfying feel to it. Realistically I have not drag raced anyone for many years and I used to drag race on motorcycles every chance I got but I doubt I have challenged anyone at a stop light in well over 20 years in a car or truck.
 
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Deleted member 9101

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the 5.0L is most satisfying to me. I know everyone is looking at the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as being the most satisfying but if there is no stop watch involved the V8 has a certain satisfying feel to it. Realistically I have not drag raced anyone for many years and I used to drag race on motorcycles every chance I got but I doubt I have challenged anyone at a stop light in well over 20 years in a car or truck.


Even with a bone stock exhaust the 5.0 sounds really good.
 

Grassland

Well-known member
Spoiled society when a 325 HP and what like 350 torque?? Engine in a 5500# truck is the "grocery getter".

Honestly I sound more and more like an old man every day when I say, remember in the early 2000s when your large V8 3/4 ton could tow 10000lbs with a maybe 300 HP engine?
And now a base model half ton with a natural aspirated V6 tows 7k and also has 300 HP and almost literally any optional motor is pushing 400 HP and there are plenty of combos rated for towing near or above 10k?

Like look at the engine choice in Nissan, 385+ HP in a big ole V8.
Ram? Choose a 300 HP V6 for free or upgrade to a 390HP Hemi.
Even GM, who hates you and wants to remind you how much it despises you every day, couple V8s from 350-400 HP.
Ford offering 290-400+ HP.
Oh yeah and everything paired to 6-10 speed transmissions.
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It's a time to be alive and any modern half ton can do anything a half ton has any business doing.

I chose Ford because of the price point I can get the features I want, and I also want the reduced corrosion of aluminum in my next trucks.
I'd drive a Nissan Titan Pro-4x and probably enjoy it (sure looks nice and power is good) just feel the price point is too high and I don't want a crew cab.
2009-19 Ram is a nice truck. I'd drive a Hemi or even a Pentastar quad cab.
 

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