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preacherman

Explorer
thats cool but not 200 cool. I really like to 150+ dollar water can holder. Who pay that much and how can I get ahold of them, I got some stuff to sell...

I would try and make one. I have seen several homemade ones that turned out nice. What kind of truck would it be for?
 

Sloan

Explorer
That table might have $40 worth of material into it and there is no reason that you cannot build that at home. If you build it exactly like they have it you don't even need to fuss with a hinge, just 2 bolts. You can build a poormans sheet metal brake with angle iron and then very gently bend your metal with a polyurethane hammer. Give it atry, i did when no one offered a console in the size I needed. :D
 
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goodtimes

Expedition Poseur
Sloan said:
That table might have $40 worth of material into it and there is no reason that you cannot build that at home. If you build it exactly lie they have it you don't even need to fuss with a hinge, just 2 bolts. You can build a poormans shhet metal brae with angle iron and then very gently bend your metal with a polyurethane hammer. Give it atry, i did when no one offered a console in the size I needed. :D

$40 worth of material, $20 worth of powder coat, overhead (electric bill, water bill, rent, insurance), who knows how much engineering (not rocket science, but someone has to measure it all, figure out where to put the holes, figure out how thick the material needs to be, calculate the bend radius for all the corners), then use something "slightly" more precise than a piece of angle iron and a hammer to make the bends, weld the corners in, blah blah blah. Then figure in the profit margin...because people don't build things to just give them away. The guy has to earn a living off of this.

In short, it is a really nice table. I have one...I love it. On top of that, Tat (owner) is a really cool guy and happens to be a member here on ExPo. After getting one of the tables and actually looking at it (as opposed to looking at a picture of one), the $200 cost is right on target for something that is not mass produced in China.

It is a high quality piece of work, made here in the U.S.A. ...you won't find this quality at Walmart.

:26_7_2:
 

toyrunner95

Explorer
one thing i have noticed is that the term "off road" is used more frequently to say that something is studry. have you tried looking at camping world or other RV outfits? they have all sorts of stuff like that for the outside of trailers. heck, my parents had a table on the outside of their tent trailer 25 years ago! im sure there is something more reasonable.


my first reaction is to make one on your own. and heres the easy way without a break or welder or anything more than a drill. get your piece of sheet metal and cut it or however you want to do it. get some small angle or cube tube and cut it to length of your actual table top. drill holes along the edges of the sheet metal (table surface) and drill holes in the agle or cube tube. then pop rivit the pieces together. now the mount can be done with a couple pieces of flat bar and some bolts. to make a hinge. a pop rivit gun is about 25-50 bucks, and the rivits are cheap like $2 for 100 or something.

just my $.02
 

Beowulf

Expedition Leader
Goodtimes,

Could you post some picutures of yours installed? That shot they have is too close.

I had planned on building one for a while as I did not know anyone made a production unit. This might be worth it to save me time and effort.
 

86cj

Explorer
I bought everything stainless to make mine or it could have been done much cheaper. A Piano hinge, a sheet for the shelf, a square piece for hinge mount spacer, and a strip for a lip around edge.

The hardware system (Wing nut and chain) has not been improved as intended because it works great and does not rattle. I can spin the wing nut off with one finger swipe and shelf falls down. I have no room for much complexity, the wing nut almost hits my cooler.

My buddy was convinced I did not need the chain stop and just let the shelf push on itself just like the trail tools shelf. I just wanted to be able to work on a heavy repair as well as make a sandwich.
 
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Sloan

Explorer
My intention was not to bash on anyone or their product if it was taken that way. My intention was to encourage people to give building something themselves a try, it's a good feeling even if it isn't perfect. That is indeed a very nice table I just think a lot of people don't know what they can build on their own without thousands of dollars worth of equipment.
 
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oldcj5guy

Adventurer
Sloan said:
My intention was not to bash on anyone or their product if it was taken that way. My intention was to encourage people to give building something themselves a try, it's a good feeling even if it isn't perfect. That is indeed a very nice table I just think a lot of people don't know what they can build on their own without thousands of dollars worth of equipment.


A $2500 quote on a rollcage is how I ended up with a used tubing bender and a used Miller welder. Cage ended up costing me $1800, but I still have the tools and have used them to build many things since then.

Guess i'm agreeing with Sloan. Take the plunge and either build it or if you are not inclined that way pull the photo (minus the price) and find someone local to build it to your measurements. Bet you'll spend less than $200
 

goodtimes

Expedition Poseur
Sloan said:
My intention was not to bash on anyone or their product if it was taken that way. My intention was to encourage people to give building something themselves a try, it's a good feeling even if it isn't perfect. That is indeed a very nice table I just think a lot of people don't know what they can build on their own without thousands of dollars worth of equipment.

As many know, I build most of the stuff on my jeep. This table is one of the few things that was built by someone (along with the suspension [installed by me, built by Rubicon Express], etc). I certainly would not discourage someone from building their own stuff, there is a great amount of satisfaction to be gained from doing it yourself.

My point is simply that without the proper tools, you spend 10x as long doing it as you should, and the result is rarely 1/2 as good. To buy the proper tools you put the total cost at, or way above what it would have cost you in the first place. The up side is that you have the tools to use again in the future. Major bonus if you enjoy doing it yourself. If you don't enjoy it....major expense that was not needed.

In addition, if you factor in your time....the cost of DIY jobs goes through the roof. Even after fabricating my own stuff for 6 or 7 years....if I factor in my time at the same rate I would get if I went to work.....the project would never be less expensive than if I would have simply paid some one else....even removing tool costs would not balance the equation.

In short, if you like this sort of thing, and plan on doing more of it, then invest in the tools and have at it. Enjoy it. If you don't like fabrication, don't have the time or tools, and don't plan on doing more of it in the future....pay the money and have a pro do it.
 
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1leglance

2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
Couple of thoughts...
cool product my a company whose owner is on expo....
USA product vs made in China...see threads on that issue and most here have said they would prefer to support USA companies...
And the ol' my time vs my money thought...well at $200 you have to figure what your time is worth, your skill level at fabbing, your tools, and do your even enjoy fab work...
well I used to enjoy fab work and still do but only if it is something I can't find a quality product for...
I prefer USA made products and will spend more to get them if req..
and a new thought is that I can buy the production unit, hold it in place and if it just ain't right I can return it...not so after all my fab effort :)
just my thoughts and now I will go back and see if there is anything I need for my rig :)

Oh and Grim...thanks for the link on the wall desk...that might actually serve my needs better with the internal storage
 

goodtimes

Expedition Poseur
Beowulf said:
Goodtimes,

Could you post some picutures of yours installed? That shot they have is too close.

I had some modifications to the sleeping platform to make, so I just got the table installed again this afternoon. I'll take some pictures of it in the next few days.
 

Uticon

Adventurer
I agree that we should be purchasing products from vendors that post legally on the site.
The only time i would look other places or at manufaturing my own is when funds are tight.
There are alot of items i see on this site that i cant live without but a totally decked out expo rig is just to big to hid from the wife:D
 

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