EricTyrrell
Expo God
Who won?
Lucky8’s Project Discovery 3
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Fivespddisco
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LOL...sign in the background says "Keep Off" 
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That was for the hill in the back ground.
Fivespddisco
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It will be in the video if we every get it finished.
Jwestpro
Explorer
I don't need to see a video to know it's not the LR3. 2 hour critical component trail repair = not the winner
I'd like to know what tires were on each vehicle.
Jwestpro
Explorer
You were probably not traveling so ridiculously fast though right? That speed can easily force water/mud into places it would otherwise never penetrate. Doesn't a starter, and especially an alternator have some rotating parts that work better not jammed up with the grit in mud?
Fivespddisco
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The starter was also dead.
Keep in mind they have 100k on them. Another point is I always try and carry a spare Alt and starter for our other project trucks.
"Technically" the D1... but it was more of a spirit award, as it was far less capable than the LR3/LR4.
(This is all on L8's FB page from the event, not sharing insider info because I was standing there
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EricTyrrell
Expo God
Stock(Best to worst): D4, D3, D2, D1
Modified(Best to worst): D1, D2, D3, D4
Modified(Best to worst): D1, D2, D3, D4
brickpaul65
Adventurer
What drives the D3 above the D4 on the modified list? Is it the ability get down to 17" wheels or the use of 18" with out spacers? Possibly cost? I assumed you were ranking performance only. I am just curious because I was thinking the D3 would be moddable to the same extent as the D4 with the exception of 17" wheels.
Also, what adds to the D1 over the D2? I have very limited knowledge about the differences. Thanks.
Also, what adds to the D1 over the D2? I have very limited knowledge about the differences. Thanks.
EricTyrrell
Expo God
It's all very debatable. I bet the D1/2 would be close, as the D3/4 would be, since they share platforms. D1 has less rear overhang and more upgrades available vs D2 so I bet it'd have the edge. D4 has an improved traction control system which might give it the edge vs D3.
Howski
Well-known member
The Watts Linkage also binds up the rear axle articulation considerably on a D2 compared to a more conventional setup on a D1
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Part 1
Mucky Ducky
Sorry for the long delay in posts but trust me when I say we have been busy with the D3 and it has seen some serious action.
Before I explain this picture that has surfaced on a few forums of our secret organic A/C mod, let's take a quick stop at the events that lead us to think the D3 was ready to fight the mighty trees of Virginia.
Our first stop on the Summer 2014 tour was The Wilds in Ohio. Chris Ray of Mud Ruts Repair Shop and the Green Oval Guild always put on a hell of a good show and this year was no exception. We showed up to 85 degrees and nothing but sun. As soon as the tent was up the clouds started to roll in and then it was quickly followed by torrential downpour.
What the hell, rain or no rain we were at The Wilds, America's largest nature preserve. So with a smile and some recovery gear we hit the trails. It did not take long though to figure out that we should have brought more recovery gear and we were running low on smiles. Have you ever heard the term "duck snot" used to describe mud?
Even in this mud I thought I would be fine. I mean, I had the Terrain Response set to Mud!! Made sense to me.
We even brought along a little old Series truck to help out
I started on a downhill that I have seamlessly handled in the past with a stock truck on banana peel tires. With both of my feet jammed hard on the brake pedal, my attempts to stop were still futile. The duck snot mud had other ideas about giving me an express route ride into rapidly approaching trees. Take a look at this and you can see we are not talking about a large or steep hill here.
Thankfully the D3 came to a stop just before this:
So I radioed for help from Andy and Rick in the little Series truck (on 37s) but he soon informed me that they too were immobilized about 200 feet behind me. After some tire-spinning fun and nearly digging a hole to China, Andy was able to position his bumper against a tree to provide an anchor point for the still sliding D3.
There unfortunately was no way that their Series that weighs as much as one of my pelican cases was going to be able to pull out the 6,000lb D3. And then, as if it were something out of one of those crazy Canadian beer commercials, Randy Williams from British Boneyard miraculously pops out of the woods. Together we were able to design a plan on how Randy was going to snatch block me from the bottom of the trail in an attempt to pull the nose over.
To avoid pulling the truck down the hill, we needed a good point of attachment on the side of the Lucky 8 D3 in order to line up with the trees we could also use as snatching points. Unfortunately the Rock Sliders did not have the tree bars (nerfs) to grab onto. We were only left with one option: Go through the rim of the truck as all we needed was a tiny little tug. **Full Disclosure – this is not an approved recovery point. I do not recommend or condone my actions, but in the interest of science we went for it.**
This is when things started to get interesting. Instead of being able to pull the nose of the D3 over, Randy started pulling himself up the hill. This was a complete ****** moment. With the D3 being tide off to the Series Monster Truck jammed against a tree Randy's D2 did not have enough weight to get the job done either. It was time for another plan.
With the traction being so unstable, we decided to take advantage of the duck snot factor. Have a look at this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT-4Ti9qfT8
(cue the trumpets) SOFT SHACKLE TO THE RESCUE!!!!!
By spinning the tires, it made the front end lighter so to speak and easier to winch over and position the D3 back onto the trail. You may think this muddy tale is over. It isn't.
The BAD
Somerwere on this little green lane mishap tour the rear sway bar link had snapped. Normally this would not be an issue but the the link broke in such a fashion that the lower rod section was able to make contact with the height sensor. A broken hight sensor can give you a warning light or worse. As you would imagine the L8 D3 went with worse.
The Good
We were able to find a slightly longer and slightly beefier swaybar link to put in the rear of the D3
The ugly.
Here is this updates poser pic. But let me explain this humiliating picture and let it be a learning tool. If you have a height sensor that is out of adjustment or is not reading in the proper fashion, you will get a suspension fault. I can hear the voices now. "Thank you Professor Obvious, we already know that." What you guys may or may not know is that if your truck has been sent to the bump stops with lift rods, there is a good chance that the rods have pushed the sensor out of the range it is capable of reading. A fast trail fix is to lift the truck up front and rear at the same time. By doing this it will allow the hight sensor to go back into a position where the computer can read the values again.
Mucky Ducky
Sorry for the long delay in posts but trust me when I say we have been busy with the D3 and it has seen some serious action.
Before I explain this picture that has surfaced on a few forums of our secret organic A/C mod, let's take a quick stop at the events that lead us to think the D3 was ready to fight the mighty trees of Virginia.
Our first stop on the Summer 2014 tour was The Wilds in Ohio. Chris Ray of Mud Ruts Repair Shop and the Green Oval Guild always put on a hell of a good show and this year was no exception. We showed up to 85 degrees and nothing but sun. As soon as the tent was up the clouds started to roll in and then it was quickly followed by torrential downpour.
What the hell, rain or no rain we were at The Wilds, America's largest nature preserve. So with a smile and some recovery gear we hit the trails. It did not take long though to figure out that we should have brought more recovery gear and we were running low on smiles. Have you ever heard the term "duck snot" used to describe mud?
Even in this mud I thought I would be fine. I mean, I had the Terrain Response set to Mud!! Made sense to me.
We even brought along a little old Series truck to help out
I started on a downhill that I have seamlessly handled in the past with a stock truck on banana peel tires. With both of my feet jammed hard on the brake pedal, my attempts to stop were still futile. The duck snot mud had other ideas about giving me an express route ride into rapidly approaching trees. Take a look at this and you can see we are not talking about a large or steep hill here.
Thankfully the D3 came to a stop just before this:
So I radioed for help from Andy and Rick in the little Series truck (on 37s) but he soon informed me that they too were immobilized about 200 feet behind me. After some tire-spinning fun and nearly digging a hole to China, Andy was able to position his bumper against a tree to provide an anchor point for the still sliding D3.
There unfortunately was no way that their Series that weighs as much as one of my pelican cases was going to be able to pull out the 6,000lb D3. And then, as if it were something out of one of those crazy Canadian beer commercials, Randy Williams from British Boneyard miraculously pops out of the woods. Together we were able to design a plan on how Randy was going to snatch block me from the bottom of the trail in an attempt to pull the nose over.
To avoid pulling the truck down the hill, we needed a good point of attachment on the side of the Lucky 8 D3 in order to line up with the trees we could also use as snatching points. Unfortunately the Rock Sliders did not have the tree bars (nerfs) to grab onto. We were only left with one option: Go through the rim of the truck as all we needed was a tiny little tug. **Full Disclosure – this is not an approved recovery point. I do not recommend or condone my actions, but in the interest of science we went for it.**
This is when things started to get interesting. Instead of being able to pull the nose of the D3 over, Randy started pulling himself up the hill. This was a complete ****** moment. With the D3 being tide off to the Series Monster Truck jammed against a tree Randy's D2 did not have enough weight to get the job done either. It was time for another plan.
With the traction being so unstable, we decided to take advantage of the duck snot factor. Have a look at this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT-4Ti9qfT8
(cue the trumpets) SOFT SHACKLE TO THE RESCUE!!!!!
By spinning the tires, it made the front end lighter so to speak and easier to winch over and position the D3 back onto the trail. You may think this muddy tale is over. It isn't.
The BAD
Somerwere on this little green lane mishap tour the rear sway bar link had snapped. Normally this would not be an issue but the the link broke in such a fashion that the lower rod section was able to make contact with the height sensor. A broken hight sensor can give you a warning light or worse. As you would imagine the L8 D3 went with worse.
The Good
We were able to find a slightly longer and slightly beefier swaybar link to put in the rear of the D3
The ugly.
Here is this updates poser pic. But let me explain this humiliating picture and let it be a learning tool. If you have a height sensor that is out of adjustment or is not reading in the proper fashion, you will get a suspension fault. I can hear the voices now. "Thank you Professor Obvious, we already know that." What you guys may or may not know is that if your truck has been sent to the bump stops with lift rods, there is a good chance that the rods have pushed the sensor out of the range it is capable of reading. A fast trail fix is to lift the truck up front and rear at the same time. By doing this it will allow the hight sensor to go back into a position where the computer can read the values again.
