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Lucky8’s Project Discovery 3
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spikemd
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I used to like the idea of a hidden winch until a friend backed into our LR3 coming out of her driveway. She slammed into the left front corner of our ARB completely smashing her rear window, bumper and tailgate. $3k damage to her Volvo... it simply scratched our ARB. If I had a hidden winch set-up, the front bumper, lights, and fender would have taken a beating and cost thousands in damage. I am now a firm believer in the stoutness of the ARB and thankful I have it.
I will take a look at those winches next week at KOH. Will be there all week and crewing for a team running the UTVs.
I will take a look at those winches next week at KOH. Will be there all week and crewing for a team running the UTVs.
getlost4x4
Expedition Leader
I like My ARB as well. The only bumper that looks good on an LR3 or 4 is the ARB. I don't like the other bumpers.
But for a lighter weight solution, the hidden winch is a great way to go with a grill guard, if anyone made one that didn't look horrible.
But for a lighter weight solution, the hidden winch is a great way to go with a grill guard, if anyone made one that didn't look horrible.
YES. Very interested to see how you handled clearance issues with 33x12.5s on the front fender flares and the rear pinch welds. Also curious why you switched to compmotives instead of keeping the 17" steelies you developed. Thanks!
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Project LR3 update Rock'em Sock'em Robot
Has it been a week yet?
We have been feverishly working on the new website postponing many project updates in the process.
When you see the new website, maybe there will be a tiny bit of forgiveness for the lack of updates.
Many things have happened to this truck over the last year and a half. Let’s go back in time! Everybody hold on while we bring you up to speed.
Project LR3 update Rock'em Sock'em Robot
Armed with my new monster winch and gained confidence in the truck. I headed off to the conclave.
The conclave was held at The Cove in VA. Most of the trails I saw were hard packed dirt. Trails are tightly woven through the trees with many elevation changes. If you have a chance to attend an event here I would recommend it.
Project LR3 tackled most of the trail with ease. I felt in sync with the computer that directs the traction control and the rear locker. Sand mode became my best friend as its program was closest to my driving style. I knew just how much throttle to apply making the computer dance to my song. I was the pied piper and the gas pedal was my flute. My personal confidence in the LR3 was at an all time high. With this awesome feeling of confidence between myself and the LR3, I made a moronic decision to attempt a little trail called Corum. Here’s a little view of what I got myself into!
Corum is about a mile long and nothing but rocks stacked on top of rocks. Sitting at the bottom looking up I started to realize I brought a hamburger to a gunfight.
My confidence was starting to shrivel like George Castanza in the cold pool. Thankfully, I was in good company. Charles Galpin and Jason Lavender offered to take point in their D90’s. They have conquered this trail many times in the past and both are excellent spotters.
Just in case things went tits up I brought along some extra muscle. Simon Schofield in his FC101
and Andy Liwush in his massive hybrid series.
You starting to feel my hamburger analogy now??
The first 100 yards or so were not too bad. I just took my time and focused on keeping the truck up on the tall rocks.
The LR3 chugged along over the ever moving slippery rocks. It just kept climbing over everything on the trail. The air infused independent cross-link suspension was a big asset. The truck stayed level and kept the wheels on the ground that had traction. The LR3’s advantage was the extra ground clearance from not having a solid axle. No differentials dragging in the middle of the truck; what a concept.
Further down the trail, we went, the tougher it became. It wasn't long before Corum took its first victim. Charles Galpin lost a motor mount. This took him out of the lead position.
Luckily, for Charles, we had quite a few onlookers waiting for LR3 carnage. Since there was no carnage to be found Charles had no problem finding some helping hands to get his truck back up and going.
As the rock sizes on the trail just kept increasing it became very difficult to keep the truck on track. Every time you put a tire on the top rock the ones below would slide and shift underneath. The rocks would not sit still. With the end of the trail was in sight things went sideways for project LR3. Rocks were becoming too large for the tires to stay on the ground. The sill mount rock sliders were not handling the abuse well. They did a good enough job to protect the truck but, with all the stress that was being put on them they were starting to fold up into the bodywork. Additionally, the entire time, I was hyper-focused on not letting a rock crush the exposed air compressor.
As I pushed forward we had a major failure. The truck was articulating as it should but due to the extraordinary amount of flex the rear passenger airbag deflated all the way. This allowed the height sensors attached to lift rods to go past the plausible amount the computer could see. The end result was the suspension went into a panic. From the computer’s point of view, the tire was inside the passenger compartment. With the lift rods on we need to remember that we are tricking the computer. This is all well and good but it also allows the sensors to go past their plausible range. That’s when computers become unbelievably unhappy, then it's game over.
There I was stuck on a rock with the tire jammed into the bodywork going nowhere. If the lift rod had not pushed the height sensor out of range the computer would've put pressure back into the system, then picking the truck off the surface and allowing me to climb the obstacle.
Outcomes the mighty red winch! The truck is freed from its predicament and upon further discovery, things were worse than I originally had thought.
The air suspension would not come back online even when the tire was firmly placed on solid ground. With a completely deflated air bag, the computer was not going to put any more air in until the suspension was in a position that the computer would recognize as relevant. There are a couple of ways to accomplish this. One was to jack the truck up to put the height center back in the realm of reality. Or choice two, disconnect the rod and move the height sensor by hand. Given the very unstable area we had for the Hi-lift it appeared that it was easier to slide under the side of the truck and move the height sensor by hand. After this minor setback, we scouted out the easiest path to get the LR3 free from the clutches of Coram.
Although, all the LR3 did not make it all the way to the end; it got damn close on a set of wannabe 33-inch tires. The great takeaway from this little event was; we now know there is a need to find a way to extend the bump stops, so this would never happen ever again. I leave ya with this poser pic of and LR3 trying to fit in with the big boys.
Has it been a week yet?
We have been feverishly working on the new website postponing many project updates in the process.
When you see the new website, maybe there will be a tiny bit of forgiveness for the lack of updates.
Many things have happened to this truck over the last year and a half. Let’s go back in time! Everybody hold on while we bring you up to speed.
Project LR3 update Rock'em Sock'em Robot
Armed with my new monster winch and gained confidence in the truck. I headed off to the conclave.
The conclave was held at The Cove in VA. Most of the trails I saw were hard packed dirt. Trails are tightly woven through the trees with many elevation changes. If you have a chance to attend an event here I would recommend it.
Project LR3 tackled most of the trail with ease. I felt in sync with the computer that directs the traction control and the rear locker. Sand mode became my best friend as its program was closest to my driving style. I knew just how much throttle to apply making the computer dance to my song. I was the pied piper and the gas pedal was my flute. My personal confidence in the LR3 was at an all time high. With this awesome feeling of confidence between myself and the LR3, I made a moronic decision to attempt a little trail called Corum. Here’s a little view of what I got myself into!
Corum is about a mile long and nothing but rocks stacked on top of rocks. Sitting at the bottom looking up I started to realize I brought a hamburger to a gunfight.
My confidence was starting to shrivel like George Castanza in the cold pool. Thankfully, I was in good company. Charles Galpin and Jason Lavender offered to take point in their D90’s. They have conquered this trail many times in the past and both are excellent spotters.
Just in case things went tits up I brought along some extra muscle. Simon Schofield in his FC101
and Andy Liwush in his massive hybrid series.
You starting to feel my hamburger analogy now??
The first 100 yards or so were not too bad. I just took my time and focused on keeping the truck up on the tall rocks.
The LR3 chugged along over the ever moving slippery rocks. It just kept climbing over everything on the trail. The air infused independent cross-link suspension was a big asset. The truck stayed level and kept the wheels on the ground that had traction. The LR3’s advantage was the extra ground clearance from not having a solid axle. No differentials dragging in the middle of the truck; what a concept.
Further down the trail, we went, the tougher it became. It wasn't long before Corum took its first victim. Charles Galpin lost a motor mount. This took him out of the lead position.
Luckily, for Charles, we had quite a few onlookers waiting for LR3 carnage. Since there was no carnage to be found Charles had no problem finding some helping hands to get his truck back up and going.
As the rock sizes on the trail just kept increasing it became very difficult to keep the truck on track. Every time you put a tire on the top rock the ones below would slide and shift underneath. The rocks would not sit still. With the end of the trail was in sight things went sideways for project LR3. Rocks were becoming too large for the tires to stay on the ground. The sill mount rock sliders were not handling the abuse well. They did a good enough job to protect the truck but, with all the stress that was being put on them they were starting to fold up into the bodywork. Additionally, the entire time, I was hyper-focused on not letting a rock crush the exposed air compressor.
As I pushed forward we had a major failure. The truck was articulating as it should but due to the extraordinary amount of flex the rear passenger airbag deflated all the way. This allowed the height sensors attached to lift rods to go past the plausible amount the computer could see. The end result was the suspension went into a panic. From the computer’s point of view, the tire was inside the passenger compartment. With the lift rods on we need to remember that we are tricking the computer. This is all well and good but it also allows the sensors to go past their plausible range. That’s when computers become unbelievably unhappy, then it's game over.
There I was stuck on a rock with the tire jammed into the bodywork going nowhere. If the lift rod had not pushed the height sensor out of range the computer would've put pressure back into the system, then picking the truck off the surface and allowing me to climb the obstacle.
Outcomes the mighty red winch! The truck is freed from its predicament and upon further discovery, things were worse than I originally had thought.
The air suspension would not come back online even when the tire was firmly placed on solid ground. With a completely deflated air bag, the computer was not going to put any more air in until the suspension was in a position that the computer would recognize as relevant. There are a couple of ways to accomplish this. One was to jack the truck up to put the height center back in the realm of reality. Or choice two, disconnect the rod and move the height sensor by hand. Given the very unstable area we had for the Hi-lift it appeared that it was easier to slide under the side of the truck and move the height sensor by hand. After this minor setback, we scouted out the easiest path to get the LR3 free from the clutches of Coram.
Although, all the LR3 did not make it all the way to the end; it got damn close on a set of wannabe 33-inch tires. The great takeaway from this little event was; we now know there is a need to find a way to extend the bump stops, so this would never happen ever again. I leave ya with this poser pic of and LR3 trying to fit in with the big boys.
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Jwestpro
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LOL.