Miles-too high to buy?
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Romer
Adventurer
I bought my 80 series Land Cruiser with 98000 miles 5 years ago and it now has over 160K miles. I bought a 80 series Land cruiser from my daughter that had 164K miles on it. The records on maintenance were great and we have had that 3 and a half years. My daughters 4runner we bout 5 years ago and now has 150K miles.
No problems and none of us have anythoughts of replacing them. In fact, I will likely at 300K miles, pull the engine, rebore it for additonal power and put it back in for another 300K miles
Ok to answer your question, first whats your use? You going to wheel it or is it the family taxi? Do you feel comfortable doing minor maintenance yourself or do you always go to a mechanic?
If you feel comfortable doing minor maintennace then I would think 150K miles is OK if the vehicle is in great condition, get it checked out.
If you don't want to do anything else, I would get as low as miles as you can afford.
If the vehicle was serviced at the same dealer, go pull the records
A well maintained vehile near 200K miles is a more reliable one than a poorly maintained one at 150K miles.
Under 100K miles, as long as they changed the oil you should be OK
Finally, you should always buy a used vehicle expecting to have to perform some baseline maintenance even if thats just changing and flushing all the fluids.
Toyota's will last a long time if you take care of them
Good Luck
No problems and none of us have anythoughts of replacing them. In fact, I will likely at 300K miles, pull the engine, rebore it for additonal power and put it back in for another 300K miles
Ok to answer your question, first whats your use? You going to wheel it or is it the family taxi? Do you feel comfortable doing minor maintenance yourself or do you always go to a mechanic?
If you feel comfortable doing minor maintennace then I would think 150K miles is OK if the vehicle is in great condition, get it checked out.
If you don't want to do anything else, I would get as low as miles as you can afford.
If the vehicle was serviced at the same dealer, go pull the records
A well maintained vehile near 200K miles is a more reliable one than a poorly maintained one at 150K miles.
Under 100K miles, as long as they changed the oil you should be OK
Finally, you should always buy a used vehicle expecting to have to perform some baseline maintenance even if thats just changing and flushing all the fluids.
Toyota's will last a long time if you take care of them
Good Luck
- Thanks to other rigs i have my Taco can just relax!....
uzj100
Adventurer
Slee just did a timing belt on a 100 series with 300k miles. Said the owner was going for 400k.
I purchased my 100 with 100k. It is now at 159k. No plans to replace anytime soon.
200k and all maintenance records should not be an issue.
Info on the 25 year design intent.
Design/Engineering: Chassis
Design of UZJ100, as the '98 Cruiser program is coded, was frozen in mid-1994, says veteran chief engineer Takeo Kondo. At that point, the previous FJ80 model was three years old. And as on every previous Cruiser, UZJ100 has body-on-frame construction.
"There was never any consideration of unibody design," Kondo tells AI. "Long-term durability has always been the number one goal of the Land Cruiser program," he explains, "and we expect these vehicles to be on the road for at least 25 years." Range Rover was the program's primary benchmark, particularly for suspension articulation, chassis stiffness and interior appointments.
I purchased my 100 with 100k. It is now at 159k. No plans to replace anytime soon.
200k and all maintenance records should not be an issue.
Info on the 25 year design intent.
Design/Engineering: Chassis
Design of UZJ100, as the '98 Cruiser program is coded, was frozen in mid-1994, says veteran chief engineer Takeo Kondo. At that point, the previous FJ80 model was three years old. And as on every previous Cruiser, UZJ100 has body-on-frame construction.
"There was never any consideration of unibody design," Kondo tells AI. "Long-term durability has always been the number one goal of the Land Cruiser program," he explains, "and we expect these vehicles to be on the road for at least 25 years." Range Rover was the program's primary benchmark, particularly for suspension articulation, chassis stiffness and interior appointments.
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mhiscox
Expedition Leader
If you can find one that has a documented service history, I can't think of a vehicle better to buy with high mileage. There is an expensive 90K service that includes the timing belt . . . if the owner has done that, it is a good indication that the vehicle has received appropriate maintenance. If it has, then the prospects for a troublefree future are good.
FWIW, I had the AdventureDuo's 93 LC80 for a while and it ran nearly as new with well over 200K miles.
FWIW, I had the AdventureDuo's 93 LC80 for a while and it ran nearly as new with well over 200K miles.
The miles are not super important, but there is a relationship between higher miles and things going wrong. It's just the nature of the beast. On a 100, for instance, the motor will likely be in perfect condition at 150k, but you're still 30k away from a timing belt, will likely need a starter, 1/2 shafts etc. Higher miles will mean more expense keeping the truck running. That's the trade off.
Automatic transmissions have a finite life span no matter how well cared for, and a 200k example is closer to the end than a 60k one. This is normal and expected. As long as the prospect of a possible rebuild doesn't scare you, drive on. Not to say the tranny isn't good, it's great actually for an auto, but it will need a rebuild between 200k and 300k if not before.
A higher mileage truck will also require more "tinkering" to keep it on the road. Examples-my FJ60 has 230k miles and I would not hesitate to drive it 3000 miles tomorrow, but rarely does a week go by without some small service-brake pads one week, clutch adjustment the next, wheel bearing repack the next. My FJ62 runs and drives like new, but the expansion valve in the AC system went down this week (hey it was only 105F). 20 years of nearly full time use was enough for it. This kind of little stuff is normal.
Anyway, a higher mileage truck will need more service. That's one of the reasons the're cheaper! As long as you plan for and anticipate this you'll be fine. If you have a choice of makes and models all with 150k on them, which one would you buy? Probably a Toyota, and probably a Land Cruiser. But if you had a Land Cruiser with 50k and a Land Cruiser with 150k and they were the same price and condition, you'd be a fool to take the higher mileage one.
Automatic transmissions have a finite life span no matter how well cared for, and a 200k example is closer to the end than a 60k one. This is normal and expected. As long as the prospect of a possible rebuild doesn't scare you, drive on. Not to say the tranny isn't good, it's great actually for an auto, but it will need a rebuild between 200k and 300k if not before.
A higher mileage truck will also require more "tinkering" to keep it on the road. Examples-my FJ60 has 230k miles and I would not hesitate to drive it 3000 miles tomorrow, but rarely does a week go by without some small service-brake pads one week, clutch adjustment the next, wheel bearing repack the next. My FJ62 runs and drives like new, but the expansion valve in the AC system went down this week (hey it was only 105F). 20 years of nearly full time use was enough for it. This kind of little stuff is normal.
Anyway, a higher mileage truck will need more service. That's one of the reasons the're cheaper! As long as you plan for and anticipate this you'll be fine. If you have a choice of makes and models all with 150k on them, which one would you buy? Probably a Toyota, and probably a Land Cruiser. But if you had a Land Cruiser with 50k and a Land Cruiser with 150k and they were the same price and condition, you'd be a fool to take the higher mileage one.
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Dave Druck [KI6LBB]
There are tons of cruisers out there with 250k+ on them.. i thought i was special with 208k... but im just the Norm. Heck there's some guys out there with 300k on them running strong still. I wouldn't worry about it as long as they have all service records and have kept up on their maintenance.
SAR_Squid79
Explorer
My Cruiser had 212,000 on it when I bought it.
It's doing great so far, and I'm still catching up on the maintenance that the previous owner neglected.
It's doing great so far, and I'm still catching up on the maintenance that the previous owner neglected.
I agree with the posters that mileage is a relative thing. My Jeep has 225K and is on par with a 80K vehicle. I have no doubts it will go to 300K with good maintenance.
However, what about the correlation of price to miles? Here is an example of what I'm talking about. Would you pay $8K for a 100 series with 268K miles? According to KBB and Edmunds, he has it priced accordingly. I think it is one thing to get a vehicle with up to 200K for a few thousand, but $8K seems hight to me. Toyotas sure do hold their value. I've been watching this one for a few months. He originally started at $10K.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/cto/1390303686.html
However, what about the correlation of price to miles? Here is an example of what I'm talking about. Would you pay $8K for a 100 series with 268K miles? According to KBB and Edmunds, he has it priced accordingly. I think it is one thing to get a vehicle with up to 200K for a few thousand, but $8K seems hight to me. Toyotas sure do hold their value. I've been watching this one for a few months. He originally started at $10K.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/cto/1390303686.html