Modding a Wrangler to Match Land Cruiser Reliability?

[Grasslakeron]

If you want to see Toyotas' break just watch x pedition guys. Let's drive to alaska....break a coil. Let's drive to Latin america.....let's break some more, but wait, send wife to Africa and break some more. Toyota needs to make parts because when you push them they break.

 

[kojackJKU]

So childish
In a previous life before I grew up I was a jeep guy and I sure could here them rusting away. And your precious country rated keeps in the top 10 to most likely rust. FYI

That's funny....love the name calling! typical internet know it all. calling names. BTW, I have owned 4 jeeps and NONE have any signs of rust, even my 2011 with 189,000 on it. meanwhile, the lineup at Toyota for rust repairs is a mile long. Even with new ones. JUNK if you ask me.

 

[DaJudge]

You wouldn't have to replace the head gaskets every 80K with the Jeep.

 

[kojackJKU]

Nope, or anything else for that matter. Besides wear items like shocks and brakes I am all original in the main running gear, at 189,000 now!

 

[toylandcruiser]

Haha, this is great. Would read again. Jeepers calling Cruiserheads fan boys. Cruiserheads calling Jeepers fan boys. Amazing. The lines about Jeeps rusting with the insinuation that a Cruiser will not is hilarious.

The one thing that a Jeeper has that a Cruiser guy does not have is an unlimited aftermarket. That can be interpreted to be because the original product is so weak it needs it or because it gets used and more is expected of the platform. You can make a Jeep every bit as beefy as the starting point the is an LC without much hassle. Everything is bolt on.

Having owned and wheeled Jeeps, a D1, and a BJ60, I will say this: when I crawled underneath the 60 for the first time, EVERYTHING made the LR and Jeep look like Lego components. The axles, transfer case, u joints, calipers, everything are beefy. It is crazy. I buy the 25 year service life line.


Oh, and there is nothing thrifty about the V8 diesels in LCs. Nothing thrifty about a modern diesel.

Hahaha lol hilarious. An unlimited aftermarket is irrelevant to me. Lol did I say a cruiser wouldn't trust. Lol.

 

[toylandcruiser]

If you want to see Toyotas' break just watch x pedition guys. Let's drive to alaska....break a coil. Let's drive to Latin america.....let's break some more, but wait, send wife to Africa and break some more. Toyota needs to make parts because when you push them they break.

Jeeps never break huh? Ever.

 

[Viggen]

You wouldn't have to replace the head gaskets every 80K with the Jeep.

? Is that like the Pentatick?

 

[toylandcruiser]

That's funny....love the name calling! typical internet know it all. calling names. BTW, I have owned 4 jeeps and NONE have any signs of rust, even my 2011 with 189,000 on it. meanwhile, the lineup at Toyota for rust repairs is a mile long. Even with new ones. JUNK if you ask me.

Well then I guess the Canadian gov is not trustworthy. Kinda figured that. A simple google search will pull up lots about jeeps rusting. Soooo......

 

[toylandcruiser]

Nope, or anything else for that matter. Besides wear items like shocks and brakes I am all original in the main running gear, at 189,000 now!

I'm at original running gear in my cruiser with 300000 miles now!!!!!!!

 

[toylandcruiser]

You wouldn't have to replace the head gaskets every 80K with the Jeep.

Never mind the posts about the 3.8 bun oil. But that's reliable. Riiiiight.

 

[kojackJKU]

My 3.8 does not burn oil. 189,000 on the clock. No Toyotas make it to that level because they rust to bits long before that. if they don't they are obviously either 1. NEW, or 2. Kept in a garage all their life. They are made of crap metal, close the doors on them and they go DING not THUD like a solidly built vehicle. I would rather walk than drive a Toyota. The penta'tick only affected a small number. The rusting in Toyotas affect EVERY one of them.

 

[Grasslakeron]

I'm at original running gear in my cruiser with 300000 miles now!!!!!!!

Is that all? I've had a 4.0l jeep past that and 2 4.9l ford's as well.

BTW. Darran gap. Jeeps went across it. No roads unless they made one. Parts toll: one broken axel.

X Ped boys. Drove to the gap on paved roads. Toyotas broken down twice and toasted a coil spring.

Paved roads....yep, them Toyotas.

 

[romz26]

The rusting in Toyotas affect EVERY one of them.

hey...dont knock the rusting, its Toyota's way of controlling weight. It knows owners are going to overload them, so to keep the mpg's up it self regulates. Call it dynamic weight loss!

Ill give Toyota's this tho, they make great commuting cars; uninspiring to drive, bland, and gutless.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

If you want to see Toyotas' break just watch x pedition guys. Let's drive to alaska....break a coil. Let's drive to Latin america.....let's break some more, but wait, send wife to Africa and break some more. Toyota needs to make parts because when you push them they break.

AK/YK - Aftermarket part failure (a prototype Icon shock, not coil, they are different )
CenAm - What broke? We had a PS return hose leak due to a clip not being installed right during aftermarket mods and was fixed in under an hour and didn't leave anyone stranded
Morocco - Aftermarket part failure on a race truck*, got me there.

Try again



*I've pitted/chased multiple years for a pair of JK's that run in the King of the Hammers EMC. Want to talk about aftermarket and factory Jeep parts that can fail, I'll be your huckleberry. Comparing racing to stock/overland vehicles is naive at best.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

My 3.8 does not burn oil. 189,000 on the clock. No Toyotas make it to that level because they rust to bits long before that. if they don't they are obviously either 1. NEW, or 2. Kept in a garage all their life. They are made of crap metal, close the doors on them and they go DING not THUD like a solidly built vehicle. I would rather walk than drive a Toyota. The penta'tick only affected a small number. The rusting in Toyotas affect EVERY one of them.

To be fair, the rusting Toyota problems were a US based issue. The frames for the recall ridden Tacoma were actually built by Dana (as in Dana-Spicer) in a US plant. The corrosion coating they used wasn't up to task and Toyota had a problem on their hands, a legit problem. In the rust belt things were worse. I had a 1996 Tacoma that still has a clean frame, daily driven in Utah for the last 19 years and garaged maybe 25% of it's life. The frame on my 2004 Tacoma (corrosion coating issue) looked much worse after just 10 years though I kept up on cleaning and painting things every couple years. It is/was a legit issue and those owners were either compensated (1.5x blue book value) or had their frames replaced. Now, the frame and coating on a Land Cruiser are totally different, all built in Japan and rust issues are far less common. I deal with 5, 10, 20, 30, 50 year old Land Cruisers every day, Cruisers that are plow trucks, daily drivers on salty roads, etc. They fair as good as any other modern auto frame. Jeep's here in Utah suffer just the same with our salty roads, but apparently not every Canadian JK owner feels the same way you do We can all drop anecdotal evidence about the "severe conditions and rusty rigs in my neck of the woods" but the reality is you can do a quick google search and find pictures any vehicle you want full of rust holes. Wash the salt off once in awhile and it's a non-issue.